reverend franklin graham, my best to you and your crew.ee samaritan'spurse.org, glad to know that some are okay, but we expect many casualties. reverend franklin graham, thank you for your time. >> thank you, griff. griff: jackie? jacqui: meteorologist adam klotz has more on the potential impact of tropical storm fred. adam: right now that area or sitting right in between a couple of tropical storms. so far as far as the earthquake goes, this graphic would show any aftershocks that happen ever wards, no aftershocks as of right now, but those could happen after a major earthquake. the other concern at least briefly was a tsunami. there was an advisory, but that has now been dropped, so no concern there for right now also, but those tropical storms continue to spin, and that's something we have to pay attention to. fred went over the island a couple of days ago. it's falling apart just north of of cuba. this is something we pay attention to in the united states. not a massive storm, likely running up the gulf coast here as you get into monda

you look at franklin graham. that is the organization i referenced earlier today.ht in the country. evangelical christians are doing a lot of good, and went is the last time is the last time you evacuated an orphan out of afghanistan? >> yeah, that smearing is obscene. we know from other service, 90 to 100 million americans would be classified effectively as evangelical christians. there's a reason why this is the greatest country on earth. right? we have a set of values, whether you are atheist or you are a person of great and you associate with any organized religion, or the fact is that there's this value that is demonstrated by actions like you have described. what do you think they are trying to do here? are they afraid of christians fixed what is the goal? isn't just politics? how do you assess this? >> i think that is the only thing that can be left to conclude when you look at all of the good. christianity is gone. you are right. the bedrock of our democracy. the bible embedded throughout the documents of this country, god that the idea of a maker of a grea

joining me now by phone is franklin graham, samaritan's purse's president and billy graham's van listicviewers know what you're doing, what your plans are in haiti and how soon you think you can get your folks out there to do the good work you do. >> well, thank you very much. we are sending our cargo plane today at 1:00 eastern time from greensboro, north carolina, to port-au-prince. and there it will be trucked -- we've got about 31 tons, and we can do a flight every day if we need to. but we're taking on this flight emergency shelter. this would be fiber-reinforced urethane plastic which will last for years. we still have some of this plastic used today that was used in 2010 after -- it's still being used. so we'll take this plastic. people need shelter. when their home has collapsed, they've got to have shelter from the rain -- [audio difficulty] they've got to have shelter from the sun. and so shelter is extremely important. but more important is water. desalinization carts, we can do about 7,000 people a day with fresh water there if these. from these. all you cois put a hose -- d

franklin graham, thank you so much for your inspiration this morning. >> thank you. we've had exclusive on the ground coverage from the airport, we've been showing you images of what we've seen for the last four hours talking to trey yingst at various times throughout the morning, painting the picture of this crisis is. pete: is and that's what's happened as you cover this, more and more information is revealed, tiny bits of information about what's happening, is it citizens, is it americans, is it translators, is it women, is it men, which gates are open, are we going to be proactive about it, that the plan is, as trey described it, right now for the american military and government is to wait. and then you hear at the same time from all these people tuck there saying the taliban are hunting my family, they're hunting u.s. citizens, they have lists, heir going street by -- they're going street by street. it is untenable. there will be an inflection point as you talk about, will, and it feels, unfortunately, that there's tragic moments ahead. i pray that does not hap

i actually saw franklin graham, a bit surprised by his tweet but he tweeted, encouraging people to goaid he was absolutely flummoxed by the fact that so many evangelicals were not getting the vaccine. i'm curious what your thoughts are on what responsibility pastors may have, not only in the white evangelical community but also pastors who may lead churches that are predominantly filled with people of color. those two -- those two areas seem to be, obviously, significant areas of concern for us. what's the message that pastors should deliver members of their flocks about this vaccine? >> i'm glad you're bringing this up, joe, because i do think they're in a place of incredible importance as people who have respect in the community, trying to do the right things for their flocks not to be quiet about this. i'm glad you mentioned franklin graham that podcast is up there where we had a good conversation about this. his grandfather was a surgeon in china. i'll be on the christian broadcasting network this afternoon talking about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. but i'm a guy from

franklin graham told the journal, quote, i don't think i've ever seen anything that has been so controversiald it's so puzzling to me because the vaccine makes sense. it's gotten political. mike barnicle, it doesn't make any sense. are all of those people with children who don't go to school? because you have to get like five vaccines to go to school. what are these all home schooled kids that aren't vaccinated? the it's crazy. vaccines are a part of our life here in america and they help prolong life and they help save life and yet these christians are refusing the vaccine? >> well, you know, mika, a vaccine is an individual choice. the interesting thing about the history of vaccines in this country is the sach vaccine to fight polio, created in the early 1950s. millions of americans, most americans received the vaccine. if the belief about vaccines existed now existed then, two thirds of the country would be on crutches still. the vaccine has become political, that's the crux of the problem. it's the slow destruction of the republic, really, it's the disbelief in the government. it's the di

but i was at least pleased to see franklin graham, somebody who at times took some, let's just say, somes so puzzling to me because the vaccine makes sense. it's gotten political. is that -- does that give us hope, david, that even pastors that blindly followed donald trump from one bad end to another actually are getting engaged, more engaged now that try to perfect the lives of those in their flock? >> you know, there is some very trumpy pastors, robert jeffreys down in texas who have been very out front advocating the vaccine, advocating the vaccine. there is a big break between evangelical leadership, which has been predominantly with the folks that led this segment, predominantly pro-vaccine. there has been a lot of a break in the rank and file, that is a lot of what you seen for example up to the 2016 election. a lot of the rank and file as soon as an issue becomes political, it's deemed political. they start to follow other voices other than religious voices, other than necessarily their own pastors. and this is something that again i keep going back to it. this is, we are living