they also took the little writing desk and chair that belonged to franklin pierce. this room would have been used as the guest room. however, the bed that's in this room is a small bed, and we think this belonged to benny pierce. it's been refinished and lengthened so it fits in a doubt. this is the master bedroom of the pierce manse and the room franklin and jane would have used. this is the room where their second son frankie died of typhus when he was 4 years old. this was a blow to jane and franklin. he was the apple of their eye, quite an interesting little character, according to her letters. and they were devastated by his death and jane was in mourning quite a long time over frankie's death. >> i think a big house especially with only one child now was too much for jane to take care of. i don't think she was interested in housekeeping particularly. i think she just wasn't capable of taking care of a house. pierce went off to fight in the mexican war in 1847 and they sold the house when he came back in 1848 and then they lived in a boarding house again in conc

one of his friends was franklin pierce. you may have forgotten that. it's not exactly a name to con jeer with the particular days. he was a southern sympathizers which is all you need know for the purpose of the talk to of him being friends with franklin, and that is what i used to like say is they were friends with, i don't know, george bush. [laughter] the example has got, a little dated. dickinson, i wrote a book about dickinson her relationship to a man. which was face mate -- fascinating to me. it was a strange historical moment you have the reclusive poet who never crosses her father's house of grounds for anybody or anything. enter to a 24-25 year friendship with a man lost to what is -- but known in his own time. famous as a fervent abolitionist. so fervent was he that he was the leader of the first federally authorized group of black troops during the civil war. long before the massachusetts 54th and which which was stationed in all places south carolina. in that particular point i was intrigued by the period. wanted to know more about it. wan

cenk: one more thing, i saw everybody drink -- so franklin pierce, every drink again, right. [ laughterk: a lot of young people don't watch t.v. anymore. that's just the reality. let me give you two amazing numbers. this is the massively keep it real show. cnn's audience is averaging 68, half their audience is above the age of 68. ok? wow. average audience age of "the young turks" on line is 42. ok? 42, 68, a 26 year difference. that's a generation, right? the younger audience is on line, it's not on t.v. as much. and radio, radio's dead, period. air america, current, it might not hit the right media at the right time with the right demographic, we're at 1.2 billion views now on line. it definitely is out there and they are watching "the young turks," just in a different box. >> speaking of president obama winning the election, there was a certain prediction made. we'll talk about that when we come back. cenk: all right, back on "the young turks." now, of course, as we told you before, you can find us on theyoungturks.com. 6:00 p.m. east he were is when it starts, live stream as always.

it is called that, because franklin pierce would come visit his wife in andover. he would visit them in the summers, in particular. it is believed the administrative staff stayed just across the road from them. jane and franklin were staying in and -- andover because there had been a death in the family. their uncle, james laurnts lawrence had died. they returned to andover where they could get ready to move to the white house. unfortunately the train ride was devastating for the family. they were about a mile mile out of andover. an axelrod broke on the frane train. as i understand it, benny was a baby, moving about, and when the train rolled down, he was hit in the back of his head very severely. he did not survive the crash. mary rvices took place at acres' house. jane did not attend. she could not make it to the final procession of the funeral. jane was sick most of her life. she has been referred to as tuburcular, and she probably died of albuquerque -- uberculosis. >> harriet lane hosted many tivities at her home which prepared her for her life as first lady.

just very shortly after the inauguration of their successor, franklin pierce. we got a lot of tweets about the barbara bush connection, telling us her name was actually pierce. we will try to answer that question for sure next week when we deal with the pierce administration. thanks to both of our guests for theg here.and thanks to white house association for their continuing help throughout this series. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> wednesday, we continue our encore of the first season of and joined us for season two, september 9 all stop a look at the life of edith roosevelt. our website has more about the first ladies, including a special section, welcome to the white house, produced by the white house historical association, which chronicles life in the executive mansion under the tenure of each of the first ladies. and we are offering a special edition of the book "first ladies of the united states of america, presenting a biography and portrait of each first for." it is

franklin pierce before he became president, told her husband that he would much rather talk politics with sarah polk then with james polk. and yet, the women of the time excepted her. she was very highest, very religious. a strict presbyterian. she did not allowed to go white house. she got rid of hard liquor. but they had wine and brandy with the frequent dinners they had. she was not a prude, but very much a woman who knew what she wanted and that her rules out and everyone had to play according to those rules. she was respected for it. she was very popular. >> to introduce you to the polks, we will take you to the polk ancestral home. the house they lived in together no longer exist. but this historic site contains much of the history of the family. we will take you there next. >> this is the inaugural fan. an incredible piece of history. it was a gift from president polk to his wife, sarah. she carried it with her on day of his inauguration. it is gilt paper with bone styles and lithographic images of the first 11 presidents from washington all the way through james k polk. she c

pierce. >> franklin was staying in and jane's on goal had died. they went to the funeral. they were gingrich moved to the white house. about aately, they were the trainf andover slipped on and embankment. the child was moving about. this was within five minutes of the train ride starting. he hit his head severely. he did not survive the crash. the services for any took place at mary's house. any, but janeury it did not attend. jane was very sick for most of her life. she has been referred to as tubercular. >> it is a very sad story. down and hisnt whole top of his head was crushed. that is the second little boy lost. no one would get over that. she became very morose. she wrote letters to him all the time, and the white house, and the jefferson davis's had a little boy. he was four years old. she developed an attractive -- attraction to this child. he died. she was crushed. >> the davis child. >> the davis child died. >> geoff davis goes on to be the president of the confederacy. what is the timing of all this? -- we see him through the fall of the confederacy. he was a we

pierce. >> jane and franklin were staying in andover because there family. a death in the jane's u.n.ing m, amos lawrence had died. went to boston to have that funeral. they returned to andover where ready tod pack and get move to the white house. unfortunately, the train ride was very devastating for the family. were a mile outside of andover and an axle rod broke on slipped down an embankment. as i understand it, benny was a child. moving about. this is within five minutes of the train ride beginning and when the train rolled down, he in the back of his head very severely. crash.not survive the the services for benny took place at mary akin's house. they went to concord to bury benny. but jane did not attend. she was very grief stricken and could not make it to the final the funeral. jane was very sick most of her life. she's been referred to as terbucular and probably died of a lung disease and died at street. >> it's a very sad story. they thought he was just down the hill in the snow. to get him ent down and his cap fell off and the was top of his head