my father was an obsessive classical music fan, obsessed with franz liszt. my mother was an artist.is council house, and there'd kind of be audbrey beardsley prints and we'd be listening to sort of wagner and stuff like this, you know. we'd — we always — there was always a sense of outsiderdom where we didn't fit in. we didn't fit into the community in which we lived, but then again, we didn't fit into a sort of — some sort of wider, middle—class world that my parents‘ aspirations kind of, you know, covertly aimed towards, i think. and is that why you appear to have been so desperate to get away and so desperate to, frankly, to make it as a rock ‘n‘ roll star at an early age? i think it's quite — yeah, i think it's a huge motivation, poverty. you know, fear of poverty continues to be the reason why i carry on doing this. but i wasn'tjust thinking about the poverty, i was actually thinking of the ability to express yourself. yeah. and maybe you saw yourself in pop music as it was then in the mid—to—late 80s, you saw a space that you could occupy. yeah, i think i saw a space where — i