better off the fraternal order of police and the a.c.l.u. in chicago specifically don't have the best relationship i don't know they have a long history of back and forth wrangling and wrangling they feel you have multiple lawsuits and one against the city of chicago and the chicago police department specifically around police brutality but also around illegal surveillance and several other things as of just last year so it's interesting to see them now come together on this that and that is the oddest couple of couples it's amazing i mean that's so you know that it's got to be like when you see the a.c.l.u. and the paternal or police actually say you know what we're going to hold hands on this one you know like ok than maybe as a city you cross the line you know and i think it's important for other cities around the country and around the world to kind of look at this and say ok at what point is is us telling pretty people to stay home and be safe when does it cross the line and when there's a been just a part of the protests that we saw ea

of the houston police union is slamming the judge's orders as draconian. he joins me now, welcome to joe gamaldi. you're the president of the fraternal order of police. e you joining us here. i want to read first this harris county judge's statement. this is what he gave to us, quote. the public health interventions we've enacted with the support of our residents is already making a difference with over 4500 lives saved but we cannot let our guard down. politicizing a public health crisis is the worst outcome imaginable for the long-term health and safety in our community. but i need to ask you, from the police point of view, 1000-dollar fine, is this, how are you going to implement this? >> well, you know, let me be clear about something first. houston police officer's union supports everyone wearing a mask. i wear a mask every day when i go outside when i'm around folks. all of our officers are wearing masks we draw a line at draconian order a county judge imposes on everyone. think about this, 26 million americans filed for unemployment the last five weeks but yet our county judge, lina hidalgo she thinks it is good idea to impose a 1000-dollar fin