fred, based on this cover, what is this book about? >> fred: okay.e to call a -- a scheduling mystery. >> seth: okay. [ light laughter ] >> fred: it's a -- it's a type of -- >> seth: that's a genre of books? >> fred: it's a genre. >> seth: okay. >> fred: where -- someone looks at the am and pm version of a -- a train schedule, and they get it exactly opposite wrong. so, this is a -- [ light laughter ] >> seth: okay. >> fred: so, this woman shows up for this party that's gonna be on a train. >> seth: yeah. >> fred: she's like, "great. can't wait to go to this party." they're like -- >> seth: a party on the train? >> fred: on the train. >> seth: got it. [ laughter ] >> fred: so, her friends are like, "you know, we're doing this party that goes from maine down to florida. please, you know, when we come to the new york part of, please. you're invited. it's important that you're there." she's like, "oh my" -- >> seth: oh, so, it's a party on a train and you just get on whatever city you live in? >> fred: yes. >> seth: okay. >> fred: and -- well, all the f

today's book, fred, is "cottage by the sea" by debbie macomber. fred, what is this book about?community. it's up in maine. >> seth: mm-hmm. [ light laughter ] >> fred: and they have these skywriters, right? it's like these planes that, you know, have messages. >> seth: uh-huh. >> fred: and so the person living in this cottage is like, "i would really like somebody's name up in the sky." >> seth: uh-huh. [ light laughter ] >> fred: i don't know. something like debbie macomber. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay. >> fred: so i like the sound of it, and then they are, like, so the -- [ laughter ] the pilot is like, "that's fine, but i need to also say where this is from. like, who, you know, is putting this up." so they're like, "i don't know. just say 'cottage by the sea.'" [ laughter ] so in blue letters -- [ laughter ] they did debbie macomber and then "cottage by the sea" right above the house. now, unfortunately the owner of -- >> seth: so this is skywriting? >> fred: that's skywriting, yes. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> fred: and unfortunately the owner of the house, because they d

off to a great start, fred. >> fred: yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: what's it about? about -- it's very literally about a clock. [ laughter ] and so the main character is like, "i'm going to design a clock. it's going to be the best clock ever, because it's going to last for centuries." >> seth: okay. >> fred: right? so the protagonist, who turns out to be the antagonist, too -- [ laughter ] i won't give too much away. [ light laughter ] plants some seeds in the shape of a clock. and what happens is, the book is a description of the seeds growing into cacti. [ laughter ] you see? there are two of them. so -- [ laughter ] >> seth: that would be -- so that -- >> fred: yeah. >> seth: you mean that would be that one and this one. >> fred: right. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> fred: so the protagonist wants to tell time according to this, but it takes so long that he dies before the end. [ laughter ] before he's able to -- so he's about to say, like -- >> seth: his plan -- i'm sorry, his plan to invent a clock was to plant seeds in the shape of a clock. >> fred: that's wha

give it up for fred, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] >> fred: thank you. >> seth: and fred, i'm so. you're obviously so busy with all these projects, and thank you so much for making the time for us as well. i know one of the things you lament is that you're so busy, you don't have time, like the rest of us, for summer reading. >> fred: i just don't have time for it, no. >> seth: and i know you're a huge reader and it breaks your heart not to get into fiction novels over the course of a summer. but you also told me that you've developed a technique wherein you can deduce the entire plot of a novel from looking at the cover of the book. >> fred: just the cover. that's all i need. [ light laughter ] yeah. >> seth: and that's it, you will then know all the characters, everything that happens to them. >> fred: the title. you know, that helps me too. but, yes. that's all i need. >> seth: i mean, i feel like most people can get the title from the cover of a book. [ light laughter ] >> fred: i suppose, yes, that's true. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] anyways, we're going to put this to the t

fred? >> all right, thanks so much. >>> as trump rallies his base tonight, will he vent about his former campaign chairman's fraud trial? a $15,000 ostrich kocoat, pytho jacket dominated week one of paul manafort's trial. cnn justice correspondent evan perez has a look at the big take aways as prosecutors layout their case on bank and tax fraud charges. >> the most damaging testimony in paul manafort's tax and bank fraud trial was from one of his former accountants, she told the court that she and others at her accounting firm helped manafort falsify numbers so manafort could save hundreds of thousands in taxes. laporte is the first witness we heard from that is testified under limited immunity deal from special counsel robert mueller. prosecutors say that manafort used offshore bank accounts to hide millions of dollars that he was paid while doing political consulting work in ukraine. he is charged with failing to report those foreign bank accounts and with lying on his tax returns as well

fred: there's no way you're vindicated. stephen stock: they say they're not vindicated because the groundwater under their land is lost, polluted forever and unusable. because of that, the starrhs feel as if they lost much more than they won. fred: there's a pond that's still out there, it's not even a mile off of our property, that's still polluting as we sit here today. stephen stock: because of the pollution under their land, the starrhs say they now have to bring in their water from other sources in order to water their crops. now, to see our full reporting on this issue, go to our website, nbcbayarea.com/weinvestigate. announcer: coming up, more and more often, the tool used to prevent discrimination in mortgage lending is missing some important information. what you need to know before you try to buy a home. it's a revolution in sleep. the new sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now, from $899, during sleep number's 'biggest sale of the year'. it senses your movement, and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfo

>> yes, that's right, fred. i mean, in many ways, this is sort of what everyone has been waiting for the trial to build up to. he was the man who is sort of on the inside so to speak on all of these different pieces of the puzzle that have been being put together by this testimony from, you know, from accountants, from the various sort of external factors in manafort's world. but this is the man who was, you know, supposedly according to prosecutors side by side with manafort as much as this went down and may be the one to testify, you know, exactly what he was thinking and doing and intending, which is so important when you're building this criminal case. you know, he also is sort of the connection to trump world. that we haven't seen as much. >> and that's what has to be what people wonder. >> right. >> is it going to -- this kind of dialogue or examination of rick gates strictly on the bank, you know, fraud charges similar to what the accountant testified or might there be some surprise questions as it relate

listen, fred, it's a paper trail case. is an open and shut conviction, no matter which way you look at it. the mere fact that the case has gone now until monday, i understand they got home early friday because the juror -- some juror had something to do so the judge let them out early. if the case goes past monday, fred, if it goes into tuesday or wednesday, the government's in trouble. you're going to have one or two or more jurors holding out and this is going to be a problem for the government if they don't come back with a conviction, i think, by the end of monday. >> avery, you're shaking your head. you do not agree. >> absolutely wrong. there is going to be a conviction. it's not going to be 18 counts and whether -- you know, there are documents, almost 400 documents here. the jury is serious. they're taking this case seriously. and even if it goes beyond that, even if it goes beyond it, we're looking for a conviction here. >> all right. we shall see, gentlemen. always a pleasure to see you and hear from you. >> alwa

>> reporter: yet another denial, fred. president trump today on twitter dismissing recent reporting from cnn and others that he is concerned about the legal implications that the russia probe may have for his son donald trump jr. and his son-in-law jared kushner. sources have told cnn the president has become agitated by the steady stream of information coming from the russia probe and that that's part of the reason he's lashed out against robert mueller so aggressively and directly in the past few weeks. you noted that in that tweet the president acknowledges the true nature of this meeting at trump tower in june of 2016 between trump campaign officials and russian nationals promising dirt on hillary clinton. previously we'd heard a number of different stories from the white house about this meeting, denials that ended up turning into admissions. we heard from the white house legal team suggesting that the true nature of this meeting was about adoption and the president had nothing to do with crafting that initial explana

kaufman author of bet the farm thank you so much fred thank you part. and the u.s. hopes to end what is called the lock out effect on earnings being stuck overseas reforms are being put into place which will addressed an estimated three trillion dollars worth of corporate earnings being hoarded offshore archy's alex mohai live at is in toronto and joins us with more on this story thanks for being with us alex how does a government plan on collecting these trillions of dollars from multinational corporations that are holding these overseas investment profits i guess right alex exactly so the treasury has a draft plan that they're working on that's been dorris by some senior officials they're looking at to collecting about three hundred forty billion dollars over the next ten years using a system of basically taxing these people but taxing them in not not what you think in the some in vast amounts so it's seems to be a system that can actually attract people to start playing ball fairly now look if there's a lot of money offshore and we have a graphic her

>> good afternoon, fred. so yes, if you have the cfo of the trump organization potentially corroborating information that the southern district of new york got from michael cohen and you have david pecker, head of ami, friend of president trump, corroborating if, in fact, he can corroborate or has or will, that the president knew about efforts that his newspaper, the national inquirer, was taking on behalf of president trump, that says two things. one, politically, that the president was not consistent or maybe just outright lied about what he knew and when relative to stormy daniels and the other -- karen mcdougal. the other thing that's potentially a legal problem for the president is this idea that he got a campaign finance in kind contribution. that's not proven yet but it's much easier to make the case that assistants with his knowledge, in advance, from a newspaper, is an in kind contribution, rather than something that came from michael cohen who worked for him. >> ross, i guess if you're donald trump,

part of my researching in getting to the book is finding here in washington the fbi files on fred amed evans which nobody had ever seen before. they were 400 pages, the guy who is the informant there literally is giving hour by hour account leading up to the shootout while he calls fbi agents from the road to say this is what's going on, so it's incredible story, highly nuance and so i think you'll enjoy some of this but also very disturbing story, so first question and this by the way, is a photograph of stokes walking through a place, had riot two years earlier and commemorating the riot, the two guys on each side of them have rifles on their shoulders. 3 days before the shootout. the very first book which you can't see very well, linking raids, it's about my grandfather who came in 1980 and became democrat of the chairman and he helped woodrow wilson and any family is a new deal family but he was also the president of the brotherhood of magicians, politics and magic, how can you lose? that was the first book, it's really about his life and after my mother died, his granddaughter. th

let's bring in fred pleitgen. fred. >> reporter: good morning, dave. the group fancy wear was behind the attack. that group is directed by russia ya 's military intelligence. they targeted conservatives and two think tanks close to the party, but both of which are critical of the politics of vladimir putin. there is no evidence these attacks were successful, but it comes a month after attorney general rod rosenstein indicted 13 members of russia's intelligence for meddling in the 2016 election. of course, we know president trump a short time after that cited against the intelligence services together with vladimir putin in helsinki. in an interview with reuters he would be willing to look at sanctions relief if he helped on syria and ukraine. i was in syria with the russian military last week. they would like to cooperate with the u.s., but they want to take the leading role and on a final note, i'm at one of russia's largest arms expo set to desk plisplay the fighter je hyper sonic missile. another way they want to challenge america. guys. >> fascinat

and here to talk pizza is fred kaufman author about the farm how food stop being food fred thank you so much for being with us now this debacle that quite frankly we haven't covered it too much on the show the whole papa john's racial slur and everything but now that their numbers are really want to get to it they're declined it's probably good news for domino's another pizza companies and domino's what they're the largest in the world aren't they domino's is number two the largest remains of pizza hut yes but you have brains yes exactly but domino's is gaining fast i think we have to understand the scale of global pizza we're talking about a one hundred thirty five billion dollar industry globally the fastest growing country with demand for pizza is of course china they were up twenty eight percent and when we're talking pizza bart it's not just pepperoni anymore in different parts of the world we're seeing pizza we're seeing mashed potato masher where do they have what ireland to have meshed potato pizza earthian sardine pizza so anything that you can put on a crossed with some mat

what fred has done to help his journalist has been skillful and inspiring. fred is here today to stand up for austin and to stand up for all of you -- this tells you everything about him. please welcome washington post publisher fred ryan to the national press club. [applause] >> thank you. thank you, bill, for that very kind introduction. thank you for allowing me to add my voice and that of the "washington post" to the calls for the immediate and safe return of austin tice. a special thank you to the president for being here and doing all you're doing for this georgetown university student. i would also like to thank reporters without borders for organizing this event and everything they do to protect the interests of journalists around the world. and to mark and debbie tice, i cannot begin to tell you how much those of us who have come to know you respect and admire your singular devotion to the cause of austin's release. we stand in solidarity with you. you have endured what is a parent's worst nightmare, yet you have been selfless and relentless in your

with the latest in his take on it is the author of bet the farm how food stop food being food and fred welcome what's up with this it sounds so weird franken burger franken beef but what do we know well look i maybe it's not so weird if everybody understood how all their other a food gets to them how they're carrots and peaches and oranges it's all done through a grafting technology so in other words what you're doing is you're taking really one master carrot and just replacing it again and again and again this same thing that's going on with meat now which is that we're taking one cell of a perfectly good part of the cow that's able to replicate itself and we're just putting it in nice happy environment and we're feeding it some sugar and some oxygen and it grows up to be a big boy a big burger now the first one that first burger cost three hundred thirty thousand dollars so i don't know if there's a good retail it's not a happy at all no matter how you eat it now i'm going to be careful because i don't want to make myself sick here thinking about it but when you say it replicates its

and the thing with the pardoning, fred, is this. it's interesting.ident has the power to pardon. it may be an abuse of power. it may be obstruction by the president. but he can do it. when you get convicted of federal tax crimes and federal tax fraught that means you committed state tax fraud. when the state prosecutes you for state tax fraud that cannot be pardoned. he's in a world of trouble, fred. >> the president hasn't necessarily said he's going to do it. he just simply has left the door open, right, you know, avery, by praising manafort and saying, you know, he hasn't done anything that's anything unlike a lot of other people who have done stuff. lobbyists, et cetera. >> think about this, fredricka. he talked about the trial in northern virginia against manafort as a, quote, hoax. well, my goodness, gracious. you had literally all 18. in fact, it's very possible you could see a trial of the remaining ones. if that's a hoax, and you have this enormous trial coming up in washington, d.c., goodness gracious, there's nothing that even gets close t

fred is here today to stand up for austin and all of you. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome fred ryan to the national press club. [applause] >> thank you for that kind introduction. thank you for allowing me to head my voice to the washington post for the safe return of austin tice. thank you bill for arranging this and tim who will hear from in a few minutes. a special thank you to the president for being here and for all that you're doing. i also like to thank reporters without borders for organizing the event over everything they do every day. to mark and debbie tice, cannot begin to tell you how much those of us who know you respect and admire your singular devotion to the cause of austin's release. we stand in solidarity with you. you have into word the parents worst nightmare. you have been selfless and relentless in your determination to secure austin's release. the work of austin tice reminds us of the important impact and dangers of reporting. the work in syria provided a critical view of what the world to not understand. austin

today, we found some mixed reaction here, fred.t that they were quite satisfied with the way that the bishop, here the head of the diocese has handled it, and then others who say it is going to be taking some time for the church to win back the trust trust. >> it is gut-wrenching and so sad. as a catholic, i'm ashamed and i'm so sorry. to the victims, my heartfelt --d my prayers and i hope that they can get over this. >> initially, a lot of hurt personally being a lifelong catholic, but at the same time, just a lot of prayer and hope that whoever was offended by this, that they have a full measure of healing and also for the bishops involved, and everyone involved that things will be resolved in a good manner. >> there was something that most of the faithful did have in common and that is that they felt that their faith is one thing, and the i.n.s. institution another, -- institution is another, and they are willing to call out the flaw, but almost everybody that we spoke to said that their faith is unwavered and steadfast and that

fred, here is what is going on. the i.c.e.nts are enforcing laws, checking passports in the southern part of the country. they did the same under obama. they did the same un-bush bush. the white house is mad at this "washington post" story. congress is basically writing the laws like this that i.c.e. agents and border patrol are following. maybe this congressman, should be making changes in the law, not threatening u.s. federal workers? >> if he wants to change the law, he is not getting anywhere with his statement. look the truth is, this is just another statement by a democrat that at bottom line of which is, they are for open borders. then they always deny that they are but that, they don't want to deport anybody, criminals or anybody in these so-called sanctuary cities and that is the policy of democrats. and, it is not popular. i mean it is one of the things that does help republicans in this election. besides, threatening i.c.e. employees? look, these guys know they, they face dangers every day at the border. particularl

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fred still with us from peterson institute. it's tough to imagine how the administration would move probably knowing that congress wouldn't be onboard with u.s. and mexico going at it alone now saying that talks are ongoing, what's your reaction? >> my answer to your colleague's question is yes, there could be a middle ground. the administration has hoped to go up through the congress today with a pronouncement that they have a deal with mexico and that they're talking with canada and that canada may come into the agreement over the next 90 days. all the administration has to do is notify the congress today that they will be doing a deal, the details have to be worked out and provided to congress only after 90 days like -- i'm sorry, 30 days, a month from now so there is a middle ground. if the canadians agree to that the administration could say mexico's onboard, we're talking with canada but there's an agreement in principle, a handshake or intention or something to maintain canada in the agreement as a trilateral agreement,

>> we're going to speak with fred guttenberg whose 14-year-old was killed. how activists are fighting. >> first president trump just weighed in on his -- the trial. who was treated worse, alfons kpoen, legendary mob boss or paul manafort, political -- where is the russian collusion. you're watching "velshi & ruhle." he didn't tweet that. i just said that. l of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? (vo) and you may lose weight. in the same one-year study, adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. oh! up to 12 pounds? (vo) a two-year study showed that ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events like heart attack, stroke, or death. oh! no increased risk? ♪ ozempic®! ♪ ozempic® should not be the first medicine for treating diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not share needles or pens. don't reuse needles. do not take ozempic® if you have a personal or family history of medull

>> fred, i want to start with an update on the number of people. i just got off the phone with a supervisor with the fire department. he told me 15 total victims right now. four fatalities. 11 remaining surviving victims that we know of have been taken to area hospitals. we have several trauma centers in the vicinity of downtown jacksonville. as far as the location, we're looking at it happening both indoors and outdoors. still waiting on that. i've been talking to the guy that's a general manager at another restaurant, an irish pub down the hall from this restaurant, which is a sports bar. he told me he's on lockdown. he can't get out. he did -- or somebody he knew did see bodies outside. so obviously as you can imagine, protocol, police keeping us away right now. we have our helicopter up above. we're trying to get all the details. heavily armed police. we have a large police force in jacksonville. we're not far from the police station. probably about a mile down the road. they were able to get here quickly. there's usually police officers at the

i worked with fred in roundabout ways. i teach forensics. some of the things he brought out in the crime lab situation of the fbi are remarkable. i am completely taken aback. thank you, everyone. i am honored to be in such good company. on westrick. i have been called many things, officer, sergeant, dr., and rat. i am a whistleblower. i exposed fraud in the body-armor industry. there are some companies in the body armor industry that did not participate in using defective nylon products, but most did. and i was the only one who stood up. this luncheon is significant to me for many reasons. first, the recognition, and to be in such great, great company. but it was late in 2003, my wife and i made a trip to talk to my cohn and the attorneys at the national whistleblower center, great people. but the biggest surprise, and it didn't always work out that way, is that my family is intact. we appreciate that. it doesn't always work out this way. i would like to see around of applause for the spouses of whistleblowers. [applause] my wife kim is here

nothing against florida, but leading in the way fred has been, very involved.ortant that past ceos, being involved. i hope indra will be that kind of thought leader, influence leader in society, we need them, especially after her great record. >> we will see thanks again, guys >> thank you very much. >>> how tariffs are impacting transport stocks but first, rick santelli, what are you watching today >> treasuries continue to back away or do very little activity, 3% or higher we're going to discuss one of the reasons why after the break. alerts -- wouldn't you like one from the market when it might be time to buy or sell? with fidelity's real-time analytics, you'll get clear, actionable alerts about potential investment opportunities in real time. fidelity. open an account today. that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like any of these types of plans, they could save you in ou

ohio has been -- fred has worked hard to engage that area in regards to gun safety and he was at thevent today and spoke really powerful words. >> almostare reading my script. fred's 14-year-old daughter was killed in the parkland school shooting and he did have this to say about one recent development on 3d printed guns. listen to this. >> we need to get legislators who will immediately file legislation to make the sharing of these files illegal. but who will also make sure that possession and distribution of plastic undetectable weapons is not only against the law, but punishable by a really serious fine and jail time. >> ryan, i saw you look down as we were about to hear from fred guttenburg. what were you thinking? >> i mean, it is an absolute tragedy what happened that day at marjory stoneman douglas, but beyond that, what fred is talking about, he is absolutely right. we need to take action against something like this because these weapons are undepebtectab and allow people to become potential fists a terrorists an risk to society as a whole as the current systems like metal de

>> yeah, i mean, that is a big question right now, fred. we know that don mcgahn spent an exes tensive amount of time with the special counsel and more than 30 hours over three different occasions around we know that don mcgahn has been around the president at these key moments of interest of the special counsel and the president and the white house are insistent that it is okay, and they are the oneses who gave him the right and the ability to go to have this conversation with the special counsel, and they also were the ones who told him it was okay to waive attorney/client privilege which allowed him to say whatever he knew about the interactions over the past year and half, but what is interesting about all of this is that it is not abundantly clear that the white house knows exactly what dan mcgahn told robert mueller. this is what rudy giuliani said when he was pressed on "meet the press." >> we have a good sense of what he testified to -- >> how do you say that good sense? have you debriefed him? >> no, but mr. dowd does, because he t

we have to wait until the next busy news day, fred, to find out whether those nine people get to keep their security clearances. >> all right, we'll see, sarah westwood, thank you so much. so as the president attacks those in the intelligence community calling people fools who focus on the russia investigation, florida senator bill nelson says he stands by his claim that russia hacked into his state's voting systems. >> it is unfortunate that some florida officials have made this into a partisan political issue. senator rubio and i reached out to the florida elections officials in each of the counties to warn them what the russian s a russians are continuing from being in florida in 2016. >> nelson, a democrat, declared that russia has, quote, already penetrated some of florida's voter registration systems. but the florida secretary of state wants to know more. as homeland security and fbi officials say there is no evidence to support bill nelson's claims. cnn's manu raju spoke with senator nelson, as you saw right there on tape this week. manu with us now. so what is senator nelson b

>> reporter: hey there, fred. yeah, another denial from the trump administration. the president responding to this reporting from cnn that indicates he's not only worried and concerned for his son and his son-in-law and the legal implications of this russia probe but that he's agitated enough to aggressively attack the special counsel. several sources telling cnn that's part of the reason the president has become so aggressive toward robert mueller over the past several weeks. the president this morning denying that reporting on twitter. here's a tweet that he sent out. he writes, quote, fake news reporting a complete fabrication that i'm concerned about the meeting my wonderful son donald had in trump tower. this was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics, and it went nowhere. i did not know about it. of course, in that tweet there's no mention of adoption, which was the official story that we got from the white house when asked what the purpose of that meeting was. and when the white house legal team was press