it was given to ellen nail, president of the fred harvey company at the grand canyon. one of the things we don't know is who the harvey girl was. that is the interesting thing about this scrap book. we could probably maybe work on figuring how who she is based on the material inside of the scrap book. but the scrap book documents a rather long career of at least 25 years with the fred harvey company. but the scrap book itself is kind of a very positive and glowing look at what employment must have been like, at least for this woman with this company. the company also i think through its growth manninged to position itself to become the arbiter of what was american culture in the west. i don't know that they did that intentionally, but because they were handling large numbers of tourists, based in trains, traveling across the country, they were getting to put people up overnight. they were getting to feed people local cuisine. they were introducing people to native cultures in the southwest. so in many ways, whether it was intentional or not, they began to define the sou

fred puts them on hold. continues to speak with the detective. even offering a theory about the killer, harveyow, the kid may have been someone that was associated with the lock change. it may have been someone that was associated with someone she met and tried to help. >> exactly. >> fred hung up with the detective and picked up his cell phone to talk to frank. that call was also recorded. >> hello, did you hear a lot of that. >> kind of. >> okay. good. i don't need to talk about it. >> okay. how you doing, bud. >> it has been a rotten, rotten time. all of this. so much sympathy and so much activity just surrounding it, it's unbelievable. >> just as the cops had been hoping, fred and frank talked, but not a word from either one to establish they were involved in a murder. >> we had like 60 plus phone conversations between them. >> you're tapping in them all. >> yes. >> but they just didn't slip up. it was time, the detectives decided, to launch the undercover squad led by chris n knollson. >> i was armed with information now. nick harvey told the homicide guys what's up. they told me. so now

harvey, with ani difranco and tom morello. the song was written, but never recorded by woody guthrie about his landlord, donald trump's father fredrump. in the 1950's, trump lived in a trump's-owned -- woody guthrie trump-owned building in brooklyn. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. "the new york times" expose, the reporters referenced several reporters who did groundbreaking work on trump's finances. one of them was the late wayne barrett who wrote the book "trump: the deals and the downfall." he appeared on [captioning made possible by democracy now!] in 2016 and said fred trump's financial support of donald trump was "unbelievably crucial in donald's rise to prominence. >> be opened his first office in manhattan, the rent was paid by his father's company out here on avenue the and brooklyn. everything that he did, whether be the grand hyatt, for example, to get the financing, he got the financing from two banks that his father had used, used his father's relationship banker. and the father had to sign the financing agreements. they're not going to get a 30