entire estate, a number of our council members are actually included in this statewide, including fred jordan, which i'm sure most of you know. he is a good friend. he's certainly the most recognized figure in the state advocating for increased participation of underrepresented and disadvantaged businesses, and we are grateful and lucky to have him committed to our council. with the state of the state and the state of our nation and the fiscal condition, we're all asked to do more with less. we're all asked to do -- with less employees, with less resources. one of the employees that you should know, which is -- i put the contact information there, is my liaison for our small business program, george crosby. his phone number and e-mail address is there. he is working with his team to make sure that we do our outreaches correctly, that we're connecting the small contractors with the larger firms, both in the construction side and also in the architectural engineering side. so george is a key person that you certainly want to have his number and his contact information. and he works very closely