policies including his tough stance on trade, duda is one of his biggest supporters joining us is fred kemp, the president and ceo of the atlantic council fred, what do mr. duda and mr. trump have in common that makes them so chummy >> well, you know, i was actually in poland when trump made his foreign trip there. and president duda hosted him. there were a lot of places where president trump lands and he has a lot of people booing him or carrying signs n poland, he was an arriving hero so i think that is a good thing. and the thing is that president trump is not beating up president duda about poland's democracy. he embraces his the idea of having soldiers on the ground. right now there is a rotational basis. and he likes natural gas he would like poland to be a hub for that energy, again, as a way to offset russia >> they seem to have also a shared, maybe the word is soo stro -- too strong, disdain or skepticism of the european union and the european community overall. that is for torre, fred. i'm sorry. >> well, i think you're correct to an extent you know, really the united states is h