is patrick o'donnell and i title is they dared returned and joined with the subject of his book, fred meyer. >> host: weir at cpac talking about the new book rules for conservative radicals. what are the rules? >> hello to everybody on c-span audience. there was able to book written in 1972 called the rules for radicals it was good with tactics see a 13 and 11 ethical rules or use some of the tactics by reject the ethical rules in its entirety but basically it was the end justifies the means we think we ought to follow the example of martin luther king. but i have updated a lot of these rules that will be used in starting fed teapartiers movement. the very first is it is better to be 85 percent right and click the add 100% right and slow. i had 16 rules and reused nine. but the general idea that rolls for collaborative consensus development of action projects and self organizing groups. that is what we try to do. >> host: you mark february 27 does the first day of the tea party movement because? >> in 2009 our nationwide t party coalition sponsored and organized 51 teapartiers across the co