miller told us, just about anything. >> we play games. we do a lot of food competitions. >> i hear the food is mainly cake? >> yes. >> too many cakes. >> fred'sister deborah coles told us it's a big family. fred's mother betty and his aunt brenda were one of 11. >> how many cousins? >> at least 100. >> so no wonder fred needed to find -- >> yeah. exactly. a huge place. >> fred lives in california where he works as a civil engineer for the air force. but he visits the family in virginia often. >> one day out of the blue my sister called me and told me about a big house up the road for sale. >> this sister right here? >> yeah. >> karen dixon, fred's baby sister had spotted it. >> me and my mom was riding past the house and i saw the for sale sign. i said, oh my goodness, we have to get this house. i called fred. fred, this house is for sale. he's like, what house? you know the house. the scary house i call it. >> the scary house was less than a mile up the road from their mom's. they passed it everyday as kid's on their way to school. >> what did you know about sharswood. >> absolutely nothing. >> nothing, no. >> just knew it was a big house. >

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and it grew out of our work here at the miller center because as a member of the presidential program back in 2005, i participated in the conference, along with fred and several of our colleagues on this question of what was kennedy's plan for vietnam in late 1963? what lyndon johnson think kennedy's plan for vietnam was. and did johnson do about it once johnson became president on the 22nd of november? that. so my original thought was just to write on that small little slice. but then i came to realize that to tell the story of the withdrawal plan, i actually had to backtrack and tell story of kennedy in vietnam more, more comprehensively. so i spent a fair amount of time developing what i saw as kennedy's commit to vietnam. hence that that part of the title and then carrying carried the story past three into 64 into march of 1964, when the plan essentially falls apart under lbj. and then i tack on an epilog, which addresses the the story about that planning, the narrative about that planning at the time. late 1960s into the 1970s. but then very much so in the era of 911. and the way that conversation about kennedy vietnam became rolled into a co