we will see a wonderful musical written by fred newman entitled sally and tom, the american way. it explores the love affair between thomas never son and sally hemmings, his slave, and examines the inhuman compromise they made at america's birth. jackie plays james madison in the production in herry this at cal debut. >> he asked me if i was going to sing tonight. i'm not. >> i tried. >> come see the show and i will. >> you understand the debut means there will be more to come. >> i definitely hope so. the play is wonderful. the music is just totally engrossing and very thought-provoking and jackie, it's dynamite. we have tickets on sale as you leave this evening. you can check in at the table and hope you will join us. my next invitation is to join me in taking politics for the people nationally. i began politics for the people over a decade ago to bring these dialogues to independent-minded new yorkers. in january of this year, i took the interpret nationally. i launched a blog and online book club so that independents across the country could be part of creating these cutting

i was thinking about when you asked your question i was thinking about fred newman, a founder of this movement who passed away a year ago. and he wrote a book, a number of years back called the end of knowing. which is a wonderful book. had so many important ideas in it. one of the things he wrote about in that back, not just in the book, which he practiced very much in his organizing was the idea that cultural transformation doesn't happen in an orderly fashion. that's what we're talking about. it occurs out of chaos and out of all kinds of new things happening many the context of chaos. i feel very close to this. and i was thinking about open primaries and top two and so much of the discussion about this structural political reform which we're very much in favor of and which independents all across the country support, people will often say, well, you know, but if you had independents voting many the primaries then this is what the outcome is going to be or it will help the republicans or it will help the democrats or help this one or that one. and what's going to happen? that's the