orrin hatch, richard burr, and fred upton have come up with what they are calling an alternative to obamacarewhich eliminates the individual mandate while preserving many of the popular parts of the law. after long last, have the republicans figured out a way to add an understandable and effective and sensible replace with their call to repeal obamacare? >> this plan is not a new plant. it is a plan that has been around before. the party did not rally around it in its previous incarnation. we've got to see whether the party rallies to this or not and there's stuff in here that a lot of republicans don't like. they just want to tear obama care. there are a lot of questions about whether this would ensure all americans like every other industrialized country in the world. >> i think there are things in here that are popular and sensible. there are things in here like texting the benefits of individuals that will be controversial. i don't think this is an area where republicans can win the fight until they have a strong presidential front-runner who talks about health care in a comprehensive way

. >> host: fred upton indicated he would like to see the re-write happen. do you think it could happen in the 114th? >> guest: i think there is a lot of interest in it. i feel like you should not bet on legislation happening at any particular point in time. but i think it will happen eventually. >> host: at what point do you draw the line and say we will legislate from this point forward because the technology is constantly changing. >> guest: i think that would council for what i describe a more generalist approach to the legislation. when i look back at the 1996 telecommunication act it is detailed in spelling out how things would be done that are built on a view of what the telephone network looked like in 1996. those sessions that are continued relevant because they were so specific to that particular iteration of technology and business model and regulation, have you know i would say become quite outdated. but more general kind of principles that i would say give guidance in terms of how to deal with spectrum issues. how to deal with you know maybe thi

. >> reporter: the ways and means chaired by paul ryan and fred upton and john klein.n broad terms. republican alternative would reduce cost and give americans control over the health care decision and provide access to the best care and cures and treatments. centers have been exmroering alternatives. >> we have to get rid of the man dates on the american people and they have to buy a government approved product. and people ought to have the freedom and choice and flexibility to buy what works for them and their families. >> reporter: at the white house, the spokesman is not buying it. >> they must be prepared if the supreme court chooses to avoid obama care subides. >> if the supreme court rules that the president acted illegally and transitioned to a plan for people to get a plan and see a doctor. >> reporter: there is the issue of the 2016 campaign. and it could be a front and center for the eventual gop nominee. >> mike, thank you. and three armed men jump over a store counter and hold employees at gun point. what they were after, we'll show you next. and canine pu

fred upton and orrin hatch that will essentially throw the law out the window. why not that? they lose the case, the republicans will have a moment of leverage. that moment won't last forever. they have an opportunity to drive meaningful reform of obamacare through. but if they put up a full replacement of the law, the president will veto that. they don't have the votes to override the veto. gerri: how likely is it that the president puts out an executive order and says the federal exchanges in those states are state exchanges. consider them state exchanges. >> that's exactly what they'll try to do. there's something called state supported exchanges. three states that have. which is basically the front end of the state exchange but the back end defaults to healthcare.gov. those state exchanges qualify as state exchanges. it requires the governor to do something affirmative. they have to have an executive action to become one of those state supported exchanges. this will put a lot of -- it's easy. but it will put a lot of pressure to do something affirmative to support obamaca

with congressman jason chaffetz and fred upton complaining. as chairman wheeler pushes forward with plans to regulate the internet, he still refuses to directly answer growing concerns about how the rules were developed how they are structured and how they will stand up to judicial scrutiny. lawmakers haven't seen the regulations either, but democrats are applauding them as a way of limiting the ability of internet providers to sell so-called fast lanes or slow lanes of service. >> wow. that is not how the internet should function in 2015. but that's what the internet could look like if the broadband barons get their way. >> reporter: republicans are saying a law passed by congress would be far more appropriate than a regulation. senator john thune has a bill, but to pass it he needs some help. >> it's going to require that some of these democrats that have been giving us the stiff arm at the encouragement of the administration decide to come to the table and hopefully work with us. >> reporter: but instead of asking 535 elected members of con

commerce committee chairman john thune and house of representatives energy and commerce chairman fred upton did the same. and according to a survey last week i respected them accredit polling firm, 79% of the american people favor making this public. but still the sec has insisted on keeping it behind closed doors. we have to pass president obama 317 page plan to the american people can find out what is in it. we should be an independent agency based on the record. we shouldn't be [inaudible] by the white house. and we should've released this plan to the public corporate in that impact and then there was no need for us to resolve that matter today. there is no immediate crisis in the internet marketplace that demands immediate action. the backers of the president's plan noticed, but they also know that the details of this plan cannot stand out of the light of day we know that the more the american people are aware about it, the less they will like it. that is why this plan was developed behind closed doors at the white house and why it has remained hidden from public view. these are not my

although senators orrin hatch and richard burr and fred upton have drafted a health care plan and they're offering a difference. chris, what kind of difference can the republicans offer that would be better than the affordable care act as we know it now? >> nothing. i mean, basically what they're going to offer is a proposal that makes things worse. that takes health care coverage away from millions of families. now, listen, i know republicans are never going to like obamacare. that is a given, but the notion that somehow this law has been a disaster, well, i guess, providing health care to millions of families for some republicans is a disaster. helping to reduce the cost of inflation of health care is a disaster. having you know health care basically in terms of the uninsured rate at the lowest level it's been in decades that's a disaster. if the -- this is an issue that from republicans' perspective they see health care as a luxury. for most americans they see it as a necessity. the idea that you'll take it away and come back with a proposal that basically limits it even further whatev

other republicans like john thune and fred upton are working on trying to find some kind of compromise with democrats so they can avoid this title to utility style regulation. that is happening on capitol hill. providers like at&t, verizon are probably going to challenge the new rules in court. you will have the challenge on capitol hill, the challenge and the court. host: what can happen on capitol hill? host: can the republicans legislate this away? caller: i don't think they can legislate net neutrality away because president obama would veto the bill. the real question is how far the republicans would be willing to compromise. they are working on a bill that would address many of the concerns that the advocates of net neutrality would want, like preventing writers from blocking websites or slowing down traffic. it would impose those kinds of rules while also stopping the fcc from using this broader utility style authority, making the internet into a telecommunications service. there is potentially some ground for copper mice, but we will see because a lot of democrats have been wor

senators orrin hatch and richard burr and fred upton had things like you couldn't be denied coveragealue of that insurance exceeds a certain level, you would have to pay an income tax on that sum. this is just a framework that comes five full years after the affordable care act was first passed what is the future for obamacare, could the supreme court, would the supreme court actually deal it a fatal blow this year? will republicans ever build enough support to gut it themselves or will they eventually give up the fight? joining me now is former governor and doctor howard dean, and david frum senior editor with the atlantic. howard dean i'll ask but this republican alternative. for years we have been repeal and replace. now here is the replace. >> the question is is the bill universal. does everybody has health care? obamacare doesn't do that this does it worse. the key insurance reforms in obamacare sound like upton and his crew are proposing that is community rating and guaranteed issue. we need to see the fine print. this is not enough. this can't be taken seriously. but it is a s

across the hall, a house version of the bill, co-sponsored by representatives fred upton and rick [zmuin all of these bills is nearly identical. the only thing that has changed is the lack of bipartisan support. so i am hopeful that in this time in time,v unite across party lines to endorse measures that will break down barriers to infrastructure investment investment, so that no american, no matter where w(÷elive, no matter their economic status, will bet( perpetually stuck in digital darkness. i want to thank the wireline competition bureau for their work on this item and the chairman for his leadership on this issue. >> thank you, commissioner. commissioner5a rosen woreworcel. >> american enterprise andxd efficiency is the stuff of legends. when we really thrive, is when we find common cause and come together to get things done. for our forebearers, this meant everything from holding barn raisings to building bridges to setting up cooperatives to bring electricity to our nation's farms. but infrastructure challenges the past. we have communities that face them today. with broadband.

i do look forward to working with the energy and commerce committee's chairman, fred upton, to craft meaningful legislation that will actually help the american people instead of strangle them with more government regulation, which is what the affordable care act actually does. americans should have the freedom to make their own health care decisions. in march of 2010, the patient protection and affordable care act was signed into law. it was drafted quickly and behind closed doors. it included secret deals, loopholes drafting errors fuvending cliffs, and allowed federal agencies to be created without congressional knowledge or oversight. more and more of the affordable care act supporters are having to admit to the american people that in their rush to pass a bill the same people who put their voting cards in the slot and helped the a.c.a. become law didn't actually know what was in the bill. . and now people are finding out what is in the bill and they're upset. so upset are the american people that in every election for the house and senate since the passage of the affordable care