. >> well, we're joined now by the deputy editor of the spectator, freddie grey. ie, this is a tncky freddie grey. freddie, this is a tricky issue for the united kingdom. most economists on left and right would agree that tariffs are not really a good thing. but donald trump seems to like them and like them very much. is it really possible to think that the uk might be much. is it rea

well, we're joined now by deputy editor of the spectator, freddie grey. od to see you this morning, freddie. and what did you make of this yesterday passed by a bigger majority than most expected. >> well , what most expected. >> well, what i made of it is what i always make of it. whenever people in parliament start talking about parliament being at its best, i find it very self—congratulatory. and you always get the impression that something quite bad is happening. but i did. i find it a little bit sickening. kim leadbeater now sort of , you leadbeater now sort of, you know, being treated as if she's just ended slavery. and i just i think the bill is racked with problems with holes. there was a lot of talk about what a good and robust debate it was. it wasn't long enough to debate. i mean, i think there was five hours total debating time on this extremely sensitive and difficult subject. and there are also a lot of untruths told by leadbeater, by labour, you know , leadbeater, by labour, you know, for instance, that any country that has introduced legisl