frederick douglas, de ask frederick douglas to join him an frederick douglas said no, are you crazy? this is a suicide mission. and john browne did fumble through life. he was a failed businessman. he failed a lot of things. and he always managed to do things but he never did them on time. they kind of never, the train just kind of rumbled forward but never arrived on time. with the passages that should have been there. >> and just briefly how did you come to see john browne in the end? >> i loved him. i mean i grew up in the church. and he was very religious and that was one of the things that really attracted me to him. and the power of religion that made him so-- that made him such a force is something that still exists in my own life. so i really admire him. i admire him now more, now than i did when i first learned of him. >> all right, we're going to continue this conversation on-line but for now, the brook is the good lord, national book award winner, thank you very much. congratulations. >> thank you very much. delighted. >> woodruff: again, the major developments of the day:

frederick douglas, when they wrote about black folks singing, they said slaves sing most when they aresad. so the idea that this guy couldn't understand that black folk were being owe pressed all around him is an unfortunate consequence of why supremacy in the south throughout the 20th century. what we have to do is ask governor jindal and senator cruz, ask former governor palin, ask former speaker of the house newt gingrich if they stand by mr. robertson and his comments about race and race relations in the south in the middle of the 20th century. if they do, and i suspect that some of the audience -- viewing audience of the "duck dynasty" does, their alignment with that is what we refer to as a racial dog whistle. they're aligning themselves with those folk who are still in the south who really actually believe that everything was fine in the south before the civil war. >> all right. so victoria, as we branch out more into this interview, the remarks go on in "gq" to say when he was asked about what in your mind is sinful. his answer start with homosexual behavior and just morph out

when the speaker at the event tried to engage terry by talking about the abolitionist frederick douglass. >> when douglas, he writes a letter to his former slave master and said i forgive you for all the things you did to me. >> for giving him food and shuttler all those jeers? >> you plucked your is educational background from the daily show. don yeltsin. here's why. >> the law is going to kick the democrats in the butt. if it hurts a bunch of college kids that's too lazy to get off and get a photo id, so be it. >> right, right. >> if it hurts the whites, so be it. if it hurts a bunch of lazy blacks, so be it. >> and it just so happens that a lot of those people vote democrat. >> gee. >> the third nominee, congressman louie gohmert who warned the obama administration was under the influence of members of the muslim brotherhood. >> thank god for the moderates that don't approve of what's being done. but this administration has so many muslim brotherhood members that have influence that they just are making wrong decisions for america. >> then there's congressman steve king, a long-time opponent of immigr