phone number to a gentleman that was there and then there's another one of our friend's name frederick douglas that was murder right on on frank's on avenue not sure for what for what reason exactly but all these places are within. two minutes of the y.m.c.a. which is unique because that's where a lot of our kids go. basketball is a easy game for kids to pick up on because all you need is a vast. you can get lost in a game for hours or years or even a lifetime for some people like michael jordan or kobe bryant. able columns on a motivation and more importantly from gives them an opportunity to explain. a lot of kids look at. to athletes and entertainers so he want to be rappers for the next le bron james or they want to be their neighborhood gangsta then the neighborhood drug deal that's fascinating into so kids they get tense to see in their environment and they have options like evil you selling crack rock or you got to we can jump shot in order to excrete the hood. market and. i. was going to let all my dear me go for the. so what's up man for the day. this is some of the best of his all she can

but i think it's really important to realize that frederick douglas was one of the heros of my book, i think. he's a universal suffragist. he sticks with the idea of women's right to vote to the very end, through thick and thin, and it does get ugly. his friendship with stanton and anthony resumes because he's making a political, a very important and vital political choice saying i have to winfrey.com for my people. and this is my role. and then the suffragists do the same thing. and so when it comes down to the federal amendment, which is controversial in ways that state changes are not, because it also brings washington into the picture, it brings state's rights into the picture. a lot of the opposition to the federal amendment, we will then hear 50 years later in the civil rights movement. state's rights, washington overlooking election behavior -- we're hearing it right now, overlooking election behavior of the state's. and so you have someone like carrie cat, who is such a fascinating character. she's also the head of the national women's suffrage association, so she knows what'

important meanings that douglas -- meetings that douglass has with lincoln, and then i want to focus on the election-year of 1864. i do this in part because it is so important to frederick douglas, his reelection, but also because i know that i have onken before numerous groups those meetings and i do not want to repeat myself. i do not want to be accused of telling the same stories over and over. the first meeting is august 10, 1863. one of the great things about speaking to any lincoln group is you all know so much and i do not have to fill in the details, that is also the scary part about speaking to a lincoln group, somebody is going to catch me here and you will email i know you are, because you do. [laughter] one of the risks of actually having your book read, fairly widely now, you get a lot of emails from people with opinions. [laughter] who also scrutinize your footnotes. hm? a couple of you are in the audience, but we've already talked, i know. and i have a list of revisions to do for the paperback. anyway, the first is august 10, a meeting that douglass sought out, he had no invitation. he had never been in washington dc. it was his first ever visit to washin

that time in accepting the legitimacy of the administrative state, you had abandoned the necessity of establishing separation of powers as a viable way of working our national government. >> saturday the 20th annual frederick douglas book prize. inners include "never caught" and "the dawn of detroit." on afterwards, alabama democratic senator doug jones recounts his prosecution of two former kkk members involved in the birmingham church bombing that killed four black girls. he book is called "bending toward justice." >> the motive was to stop the desegregation of the school. >> absolutely. >> that gives you the whole theme of the trials for children. >> it was the year of the child, fire hoses and dogs in may of birmingham, which started that progress. hope was a life. for some people in birmingham, they were seen their segregated way of life sliding away and took matters into their own hands. >> watch tv on c-span2. >> the war in the pacific, a cure for measles, and the life and legacy of dwight eisenhower. this weekend on american history tv at saturday 1:00 p.m. eastern, world war ii's first major ally defense, the battle of guadalcanal. >> for the american public, guadalcanal came to symbolize the first test o

politically incorrect and it is one of those statues that is disputed in the new public debate over public memorials. ulysses s grant unveiled it. frederick douglasave the dedicatory address in 1876. it is by thomas ball. interestingly, it was funded exclusively by african-americans. sits ine it still southeast washington. in 1887, another great achievement that is still considered a great work of art, also known asan," standing lincoln in chicago. a hard act to follow. it was unveiled by abraham lincoln's grandson, how much more appropriate could it he? 1875, to thek to professional origins of a man who i think actually created the great lincoln image, the great iconic lincoln image of his time and ours. that is daniel chester french. dressed rather jauntily on the left. his first successful work, another iconic work, "minuteman," unveiled in massachusetts in 1875. at that time, he was in florence studying under the extravagantly bearded fellow in the rear, thomas ball, the man who had done the lincoln statue for washington. studied --rench mostly he was studying ball's daughter, on whom he developed a crush. [laughter] mr. holzer: but he studie

going to be close ok it was done with john fredericks we thank you for speaking to us from virginia so that is obviously a supporter of trump let's not speak to douglas sloan he's a democratic strategist he's joining us live from washington d.c. so i'll go out on a limb here and say that you're not happy with the summary of the report yet what it did say douglas sloan is that the investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the russian government so this is a significant political victory for donald trump. well yes and quite frankly as an american i am happy that the president of our united states was not found guilty of collusion with a foreign power so.

that, but there were professional lincoln haters for years. there were not only getting right with lincoln, there are to show everybody what was long -- what was wrong with lincoln. frederick douglas did this. , he30 years after the war created at least three different lincolns at different times. one in 1865, 1876 and 1893. variations on the theme, but he created the lincoln he needed for that political moment. i think that usually is the case. what is the politics of any moment? somehow, either the healer for the emancipator, or the wily politician, or take your pick, is most needed or useful. lincoln,hat obama used which was mostly lincoln the healer. and now we need even more healing, so lincoln better be ready. me?an you hear perhaps i can build on what david has said. something not just for the united states. it is not just a handy way of analyzing current problems in any given era to seek a way of solving them. lincoln has been an international figure, even in his own lifetime. a had a reputation abroad as progressive, as an emancipator, as a democrat, as an embodiment of the self-made man. the kind of man that didn't exist anywhere else outside the united states. america w

close ok it was done with my brakes john fredericks we thank you for speaking to us from virginia so that is obviously a supporter of trump let's not speak to douglas sloan he's a democratic strategist he's joining us live from washington d.c. so i'll go out on a limb here and say that you're not happy with the summary off the report yet what it did say douglas sloan is that the investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the russian government so this is a significant political victory for donald trump. well yes and quite frankly as an american i am happy that the president of our united states was not found guilty of collusion with a foreign power so this is a great day for trump and why very good is a great day for all americans that we have a president that is not guilty of collusion however the question is still open on the matter of obstruction. if i could just quote. the key here is what muller said when he said. the poetess while the report does not conclude protos committed a crime does not exonerate him regarding obstruction so that something that the democrats are going to continue to

frederick douglas prize among others. please join me in welcoming our two authors. [applause] :: there had been some challenges that we still experience today. both men represent a wide spectrum of black ideology when it comes to activism. they also represent the diversity that exists. i asked both of our guest today to begin by simply sharing either an antidote or a favorite excerpt from either of their books. >> i am really pleased to be here in the interest of disclosure i think david and i have more in common than just our subjects we had been close friends for many years and we have the same agent who is in the audience. with the same editor. we also have the same publisher. and we share a very dear friend and one of the people that i dedicated my book to james horton who died two years ago. he was one of david's closest friend in mind. we are partners in crime and we are excited to be able to be on the same panel today. i guess the antidote that i would want to start with is the first one in my book it is in the prologue and i think in some ways it is consistent with the themes of the session about essentiall

that people like garrison couldn't possibly offer. garrison only knew slavery from a distance and he's white. he couldn't speak to slavery like frederick douglas could. a second weapon of the abolitionists and arguably their most important was literature. abolitionists flood the streets and the mails. with a massive outpouring of pamphlets, leaflets, newspapers, sermons, broadsides. in 1835 alone, abolitionists sent more than one million pieces of mail through the postal system. and what's in this abolitionist literature are calls for slave holders to repent, to free their slaves. it's calling on non-slave holders to join the abolitionist movement. and the literature is filled with condemnations of slavery itself as immoral, as unjust. it described plantations as places where the most brutal kinds of atrocities happened on a regular basis. and it's a very careful kind of message, right? abolitionists understood that americans were coming to value things like the domestic sphere. family life. these things that were absolutely critical for individual happiness and for national stability. and so abolitionists particularly stressed how slave famil

that would be frederick douglass. did wilson and him have any kind of relationship together? yeah, yeah. wilson is aware of frequent douglas -- of frederick douglass, has an enormous amount of respect for him, but they clash over this position over what to make of the re-adjuster movement and how loyal to be to the republican party. douglass and other african-american leaders had a complex relationship with the republican party. frederick douglas felt he should conscience of a republican party, but it always backslid because they did not act in a way he thought was appropriate. there is a testy exchange of letters between wilson and douglas, because wilson feels a little bit -- you see in some of his writings, this attitude of, to african-american leaders who are now based in the north, saying, here i am in the south. i am in the belly of the beast. you can't understand what is going on unless you are here on the ground. bit ofe was a little that back and forth -- respectful, but tactical differences. this might be a two-part question. i was interested when you were talking about elizabeth van lew and the confederate autho