. >> the relationship between lincoln and frederick douglass in terms of bringing the end of slavery because we often in a sense celebrate the emancipation emancipation proclamation and remarsary but in a real sense blacks were not freed until they were behind the union lines, so there is that time in 1864 we are now at the 150 mark when there was a temptation to have a compromise which would preserve slavery in the south and not bring the freedom that frederick douglass would want. i guess he was becoming even critical of lincoln in public. so they would have at least two meetings that i know of. >> the meetings between p. and abraham lincoln are extraordinary historical moment. douglas was the agitator and wanting to move lincoln further. he was the head of the movement and lincoln had to be the political man figuring out how far can i go planned. some of their early meetings i think there was some tension between them but eventually douglass came to a great respect for lincoln and once he finally opened the doors to african-americans to come in as soldiers douglas played a big rol

i will read to you a passage from the life and times of frederick douglass who himself was a slave. and escaped from maryland not too far from where harriet tubman was born -- in fact, their lives are similar. they were born just a few years apart and died just a few years apart also. he writes in the earlier version of his autobiography, "one of the first circumstances that opened my eyes to the cruelties and wickedness of slavery and its hardening influence upon my old master was his refusal to interpose his authority to protect and shield a young woman, a cousin of mine who had been mostly cruelly abused and beaten by his overseer in tuckahoe, maryland, little less than a human brute, in addition to his general repulsive coarseness, he was a miserable drunkard, a man not fit to have the management of a drove of mules. in one of his moments of drunken madness he committed the outrage which brought the young woman in question down to my old master's for protection. the poor girl on her arrival on our house presented the most pitiable appearance, she had left in haste and without pr

frederick douglass takes them as blaming us for the war it's actually clear when you look at the context the quote. but for this terrible situation that started you actually use that image. it's slightly better said that way i think of and how it was heard. but it was towards the black race and we messed this up. in the back. >> there are the men that served in the union armies i think about 30 or 40 died in the war. many died after the emancipation proclamation was signed. prior to the war into the beginning of the war, they were fighting for the preservation of the union. david emancipation not clarify for them that they were fighting for the abolition of the change of slavery clicks spinnaker think the question is whether the fighting men had the mission of the board clarified. is that what you're asking by the emancipation preparation? or the shift of it? to show you the question one more time, again, the mission of the war is so critical to its success, and we know that from our experience with recent war, that experience in the vietnam war and a well articulated mission is critical

frederick douglass met with the president as these three times.he was this big a part of emancipation -- emancipation as president lincoln. i agree with werner should be a national holiday. we live in a country that remembers to forget slavery, that remembers to forget lynching, and it remembers to forget all these horrible things that happened to parts of the population. now if we remember on june 19 the end of slavery we could also remember all the americans who died and came together to end slavery including white americans. so juneteenth, very important again as a matter of small d democracy and citizenship where we became a new united states of america by the time all of our citizens realized that there was freedom. >> guest: that's something maybe we have to have a great discussion on. we were talking about our universities and that's something we ought to have a discussion on. i have talked to a lot of people who still don't understand exactly what the 13th amendment is about. now i know lincoln was involved in the movement but i had nothin

it is indeed frederick douglass.it does specifically mention douglass role with the african-american troops. however, the rest of the booklet, the vast majority of the booklet, it is astounding how many civil war memorials there are in the state of maryland. i grew up near robert e. lee park, and i knew there were several civil war monuments, but this is one after another. and including one to confederate nurses, by the way. there's even an entry for john brown's raid. that might strike you as odd, but you need to remember that he planned his raid in maryland and stayed at a farm owned by a family named kennedy. what's striking about the entry on the raid is it doesn't tell you why john brown raided harper's ferry. it just says john brown raided the arsenal at harper's ferry. there is no mention of the thought of freeing the slaves. none of that. none of that as it slides. >> as a good thing? >> oh, no. it's almost encyclopedic. let fee get the facts down and let's be done. in fairness, most were done like that. >> i

bailey to by frederick douglass came from an individual who was degrees, it. unborn among these people are descendants. people like a blue car says, may allah be pleased with them. and these people, you're a movie that you made about it was incredible. and may allah reward you for that. and without any significant campaign, the first people on these shores to desire, to reach, to really risk their lives and give their lives to establish, the people to whom -- saw fit to give his religion and make yet again the vanguard and the protectors and the guardians , to literally make america safe for allah were the children of enslaved african and black africa. i don't know how many of us really discuss this, how much this is really seen. there was a miraculous event where people have been striving to learn is lot for so long. he became the leader of the nation of islam, and it's very significant that i was in dearborn today, and this is the largest community of muslim in america, primarily arab and asian muslims. why were they safe to establish here? when we talk abou

rich bostonians and new yorkers funded the abolition movement, including supporting frederick douglass, who came up with one of the greatest civic insights of all: "power concedes nothing without a demand." and if we are so, so shorn of any morale that we don't even demand anymore because we've given up on ourselves, why should the power brokers give us the time of day, especially when they got two parties dialing for the same commercial dollars? so here we go. you'll never hear this type of proposal. ready? justice needs money. the environmental movement was funded before it became a membership base by a few rich people. the early civil rights movement, heavy funding from the stern fund in new orleans, the curry family in virginia. the women's suffrage movement was slowing down until some rich women helped fund it in the 19th century. a small portion of very rich people, especially in their 70s, 80s, and 90s, where they have a different perspective on life. they want to look their grandchildren in their eye. they're thinking of not wanting to leave this country, heading for the cliff.

from 1852k at history from frederick douglass to many, manye are instances, thousands and thousands of instances of racism here in this country, and yet still everybody walks around like there is nothing like it's nothing. host: some thoughts on that from twitter. what is the federal role? end racism. democrats line, go ahead. you're on the air. go had with your comments. hi.er: from maryland, this is liz from the independents line. caller: hello. i'm grateful that the attorney general and the federal government are doing a good job in looking into the ferguson situation. actually, these types of police discrimination is an occurrence in every state throughout the country. it is not just ferguson. he goes on everywhere. most of the incidents are not reported because a lot of these counties, as in ferguson, they do not have oversight or any type of civilian boards where the actual citizen can go and complain about issues with the police harassment. also, i have been complaining for years about these government surveillance programs which really is the major benefactor in a lot of this p

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