i'm here with frederick forsyth internationally renowned crime fiction writer seth and we're talking about the recent spy swap between the u.s. and russia where ten spies were deported from the u.s. in exchange for four in russian presence most of all so i thank you so much for talking to r.t. today that this seems to have been a very lengthy process in which no actual secrets were passed on do you think that these particular spies would ever have produced information that would have been of any value well it's difficult to say what they would eventually. manage to get over certainly what they were doing when they were discovered during very quiet suburban lives it does for a lot of people they have not penetrated any major institution like cia. or f.b.i. or the pentagon or some nuclear facility that and any of that they might have been used as me go betweens but one doesn't think that as the primary information source they were nowhere near as sensitive material and these kind of deep sleep i mean what kind of person would do that it seems to be quite a special type of scale it is t

his belt who better to speak about the latest surprise count up next our interview with writer frederick forsyth coming up next. most of all so i thank you so much for talking to r.t. today now this seems to have been a very lengthy process in which no actual secrets were passed on. do you think that these particular spies would ever have produced information that would have been of any value well it's difficult to say what they would eventually. manage to get hold of certainly what they were doing when they were discovered building very quiet suburban lives it does from that appear that they had not penetrated any major institution like cia. or f.b.i. or the pentagon or some nuclear facility that and any of that they might have been used as mia good between but one doesn't think that as the primary information source they were nowhere near as end of the material and these kind of deep sleep i mean what kind of person would do that it seems to be quite a special type of scale it is to to to leave your homeland to go to somebody else's and really it's completely sink in this society to such a deg