so, you know, i quota letter that fredrick douglas wrote to a washington newspaper after the day after dedication of the freedman memorial complaining about the representation of a black man as more like an animal than a man. so people have been spotting the issues in problematic statues since they went up. it's just the voices have been effectively squashed through very concerted campaigns to shape what vision of history gets taught, especially to american school children. so in the early 20th century, the united daughters of the confederate swib a confederate heritage group which do things like stamp unfair to the south in textbooks that they thought for example a ho attributed the war to slavery rather than states rights. so i think what we are seeing now is not suddenly new complaints or new defenses. it's just a change in perceptions and sort of coming out to public because one side is not so successfully tamped down on all of the complaints. >> sure. >> and yeah, so i think i have seen a lot of analysis of statue protests with commentators thinking they knew what protesters wante