how did freedomfest come about? >> of renaissance gathering economics, philosophy, scien ce and technology, religion from a healthy living we have of wide group he been investment conference, concerned citizens but the focus is political, economic and financial freedom. this growing. we have 2000 this year next year we're moving to caesars palace. it should be a good topic. >> are you a libertarian? >> i always tell them treat everyone as individual. we don't like political labels. whimper terry and maybe the closest to identify me. freedomfest is not collect -- connected to any political party. we are for profit but we invite nonprofit think tanks we don't compete with them at all. and to bring the intellectual feast two las vegas. >>host: what is your background? >> i am an active mormon on a mission for the mormon church and worked for the cia. then broke out to into the financial world. married, children, saved enough money to move to london where we bought a flat to and have been to 71 countries. primary source

i love books, teaching, and freedomfest. i can see what is happening in the world. >>host: we have been talking with mark skousen at freedomfest his book "the making of modern economics" the lives and ideas of the great thinkers." thank you for being on booktv. >>host: the book currently on your erse screen several weeks on "the new york times" new york best seller list ed klein it is our guest and the title is the amateur. where did you get to the title? >> the president august 2011 invited his wife, daughter chelsea and friends to meet with him. he had then a secret poll that showed it hillary clinton vin would challenge obama for the nomination in 2012 he thought she could win and she was surprised. she said how could i do this? i have lunch with the man every thursday. what about loyalty? he said there is no word of loyalty in politics. he said the people around, do not understand the real world. they were responsible for losing aaa credit rating for the first time and obama was in his words, "the amateur." i spoke to two people at that meeting. >>host: the pres

that was at the blare county tea party freedomfest 2012. >> freedomfest 2012!a or belgium. >> yeah. >> my favorite is when they say the leftist or just like communist russia and nazi germany. they didn't get along all that well. >> no actually fought to the death. >> uh-huh. >> basically every able-bodied man in the country was murdered. >> and there is nothing funnier when right-wing politicians -- >> he may or may not be drunk. >> when right-wing politicians compare non-rite-wing barack obama to nazi germany. >> and i -- uh -- where am i? here it is. i puked a little on it. okay. >> we are celebrating the 4th of july here on the "stephanie miller show." we're trying to get to all of your calls and aaron is calling us from new york. >> good morning, guys. i want to say how awesome it is to talk to my personal here rose. >> i didn't realize that adam west and william shatner could actually be on the same show. >> thank you. >> and the trick is you have to be the liberal, which means you got to love them be the nice guy, get angry and you can't call names. >> th