then we'll continue our conversation about the future of science with freeman hrabowski, president of the university of maryland, baltimore county, who is committed to recruiting and nurturing people of all background and ethnicities to become future leaders in science, technology, engineering, and math. we'll need those if we intend to excel in the 21st century. we're glad you could join us for those conversations coming up right now. ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station by viewers like you. thank you. ♪ >>> after years of taking a back seat to other endeavors, space exploration is again grabbing the country's imagination with the mission to mars. charles bowlen, former astronaut, spent 24 years in the u.s. marine core, inducted into the thought is hall of fame. joining us from -- into nasa hall of fame. joining us from nasa. great to have you with us on this program. >> it's great to be with you. thank you very much. >> let's ask what the state of nasa is. i mentioned that after some years of a narrative going in one direction, there seems to be excitement again about this