if i watched through freeview, i don't pgy- watched through freeview, i don't pay.they be hijacked and pay for services that they can watch for free elsewhere? previously virgin have paid for freeview channels and we are asking them to now. we have continued our channels on the virgin platform on the same deal.|j continued our channels on the virgin platform on the same deal. i have got to correct that. it isn't the case. we offer our channels as a portfolio and we have offered to continue with the same deal that we currently have. david mentioned earlier that we have never paid for free channels in the past and we won't ask them to in the future. we are asking them to pay for a portfolio of channels at the same level. just as i buy a package of channels, you're not paying for individual channels? you get a set and you pay for extras? they are saying all or nothing and that is the first time we have gone into a negotiation with any channel provider where they have been so adamant. what they are doing is very obvious. they are using the leverage of their free to air

if i watch dave through freeview i don't pay.nated against, why should they be hijacked and pay for services they can watch for free? so previously, virgin media has not paid for our free to air channels. and i won't ask them to now. we have offered to continue rolling our channels on the virgin media platform on the same deal as we currently have. so basically this is... sorry, i need to correct... it is negotiating... that's not the case at all. we sell our channels as a portfolio and we have offered to continue to roll the same deal as we currently have. now, david mentioned earlier on this morning that we've never paid for those free channels in the past. i wouldn't ask them to in the future. we are asking them to pay the portfolio channels at the same level... so it's a package? just as i buy a package from you if i buy the virgin media, i don't necessarily get to choose individual channels, it is kind of you get this set you pay for this, you pay a bit more if you want extra things? what we are saying is... they're saying a

how far freesa and freesat. —— freeview! howfarapartare freesa and freesat. —— freeview!for uktv. we are not far apart on the free channels because they are free and they should be free for our customers as well as everybody else. you shouldn't be able to draw a line between us on that. for the paid channels there is an important point here and it is a separate discussion which we are happy to have. if you look at gold, drama, w, the paid channel, of their top programmes last year, on the page for channel, w, 12 of them appeared on the free channel, drama. how do i explain to my customers when i am using their money to pay for quality programming that the same programmes that were free to add on their free channels? that is a separate discussion and we should get the free channels. please make it possible, steve. is this an inevitable consequence, if you like, of the shifting media landscape? different people watching things on different platforms. whether it is netflix, whether it is amazon, whatever? i don't think so. you are absolutely right that the media landscape in

and on freeview. so why should our customers be discriminated against? can watch for free elsewhere? previously virgin has not paid forfree watch for free elsewhere? previously virgin has not paid for free to air channels and now we are asking them to. we have offered to continue putting our channels on the virgin platform. i have got to correct that. that is not the case. this is a negotiating position. not at all. we have offered to continue with the same deal that we currently have. david mentioned earlier that we have never played for those channels in the past and we are not asking them to in the future. we are asking for them to pay for the portfolio of channels at the same level. if i buy a package for you, i don't get to choose individual channels. you get this set and you pay for this and you this set and you pay for this and y°u pay this set and you pay for this and you pay more for extra things. they are saying all or nothing. that is the first time that we have gone into a negotiation with any channel provider where they have been so adamant.

but they will not be able to get it because they may not be up to access some kind of freeview so forof content and you can get it from amazon tv, btv, there is a huge amount of content but it also means taking a different subscriptions which, as a customer, you will feel it in your pocket. you would be annoyed if you are a customer and you have these channels and from today, they disappear. what does it mean the consumers and their subscriptions? what are their rights? virgin are saying it is a mean you can necessarily get out of your contract but they will look at these things on a case—by—case asis if there are people who are particularly aggrieved but i think they are trying to work out some sort of deal, as i understand that virgin said they will carry the free channels that uktv offer including dave and then we will come back to the table to fight about the price of the other ones but it looks like u ktv of the other ones but it looks like uktv is saying you have all of it or none of it and so they will lose the access. very quickly, do you think it sets a precedent? content rig

do side with virgin media on this matter, they should not be charged for any channel available on freeviews of messages from people on both sides of the debate, the point being that they have paid for a service which they are now not getting all of, and that is where the problem lies. in terms of what happens next, these negotiations are ongoing. virgin media have put some other channels on while they try and sort it out, but dingdong. ding—dong—a—rama. paying tribute to fallen war heroes through song has been a typical means of commemoration thoughout history, but what about doing so on top of england's highest peaks7 well, that is exactly what one choir have been doing as they embark on a singing tour of the lake district fells, to honour a unique war memorial. our correspondent robert halljoined them as they climbed theirfinal summit. on the rocky slopes above borrowdale, a line of walkers is snaking upwards. they are among thousands visiting the lakeland landscape this summer, but these visitors are on a mission. almost a century ago, another column of men and horses was climbing into