freiden because it's so appropriate, a vaccine needs to be safe, available, and trusted.state how important it is that the scientific rigor here is just absolutely transparent and top notch. remember, we're giving this vaccine to healthy people. this is not a hail mary last ditch effort in the hospital where you just throw everything at a patient, hoping that something will work. you know, i mean, they basically compared the astrazeneca trial to the phafizer and moderna tri saying this is what you should be following, not what happened in this trial. >> i saw some reporting, though, indicating the fact that a lot of scientists were really only expecting 50% efficacy from any of these vaccines at the outset, that they didn't expect to get 90, 95%. these were credibly surprising and really in fact encouraging numbers. even with the two full dosages from astrazeneca, they had a 62% efficacy which it seems is pretty good, right? >> yeah, before we had pfizer and moderna releasing their numbers, we'll remember the fda had set as a floor for efficacy 50%. so yeah, if this had c