commissioner friedberg. >> thank you very much. i want to follow the line of questioning so i understand what you're saying. am i correct in understanding, first, that tik tok is not unique in the techniques it's using or the kinds of data that it's collecting on americans, is that right? >> it's very similar to others. there's some uniqueness that we observed is that it tends to -- it sometimes collects more information than other vendors or other data brokers do collect. >> so, but principally what seems to be different about it or concerning about it is the volume you said, i don't know, 7.5%, i don't remember what the number was, are there other companies or platforms that are in the same league in terms of the volume of information? >> absolutely, yes. other companies collect are collected on even more websites and dominant players such as alphabet and meta and others and the concern with tik tok or bytedance specifically that everything that they collect is accessible to ccp and china. >> right, so it's more where it goes and

weill st friedberg. >> thank you very much for your excellent testimony. ms. nikakhtar, you gave a compact description of the problem. the legal authorities exist to deal with it. you've argued the capability exists to deal with it what you said the will does not exist. -- but he said the will does not exist. i'd like you to expand on that. we've come to a recognition of the magnitude of this problem yet you are describing a situation where little has been done to deal with it. >> thank you. it is so frustrating knowing we have the executive order from 2019, we are in 2024, we have done nothing. agencies should not take that t implement laws and develop regulations. we have a broad authority that is flexible and can be helpful, since the to your question, though, we often hear industry they usually advocate for doing this in a nuanced way. you have to identify the companies first, the etc. it creates a whack a mole problem for the u.s. government when we are already spending so many resources playing this walkable game with china and russia, etc. we need a mor

a classicalm — well, i went to thejuilliard school of music for two years and studied with carl friedberg because i was black and i never got over it. do you think you missed out from not being able to express yourself as a classical performer? yes, i do. i suppose in my solitude. i still regret in becoming. because you get an audience who listens to music. who do not smoke. and who do not drink. and they have come to listen to you. and it's the world's most revered kind of music. classical music is all over europe and all over the world. it's regarded as the highest and of course, i always wanted to be associated with the highest type of music. so, in that sense i regret it. thank you forjoining us for our black history month special this half hour. i'm sumi somaskanda in washington. we'll be back in the next hour. stay with us here on bbc news. hello there. friday was a day of sunshine and showers, some of the showers heavy with some hail mixed in. and with colder air moving in across the country, we saw a bit of snow return to the top of the cumbrian fells. this is the top of helvellyn

friedberg. >> wanted to follow -- >> i wanted to follow commissioner line of questioning.rect in understanding, tiktok is not unique in the techniques it is using or data it is collecting on americans, is that right? >> it is very similar to others. there is some uniqueness we have observed. it sometimes collects more information than other vendors or data brokers to. -- or data brokers do. >> what is concerning about it is the volume, is at 70 -- you said 75% or something like that. are there others in the same league in terms of the amount of information? >> absolutely. other companies collect on even more websites. there are dominant players, others. the concern with tiktok and bytedance specifically is everything they collect isaccessible to the ccp and china. >> it is about who it goes to and who can exploited at the other end. >> and the impact of the use of that data, yes. >> rate. further, if i understand correctly, what they are doing is not illegal under current laws, is that right? >> mostly -- that's why i'm pausing. every industry has different regulations. mo

i want to follow up on a line of questioning of professor friedberg about the will, and made an information nobody cares about compliance cost when it's in the realm of environmental protection or security. isn't it -- is this the only area of compliance we're overly burdened by the thought of the cost we're not taking action. it goes well beyond environmental, there's ada compliance, all kinds, does this strike you as pseudo generous? >> there's expert control sanctions and all, always sort of complaints, but it's just that the f.d.a. is another example. there are areas where there's regulations and like for human safety and it is astounding to me how industry accepts it. they complain slightly about it, but they accept this is a necessity that gets where to x. y and z. juxtapose that in terms of national security and it's astounding and i think the industry does that because the narrative works. so they keep doing it. they know it doesn't work with the f.d.a. they know it doesn't work with customs very much, it doesn't-- on the national security front so we're em boldening industry with t

. >> commissioner friedberg. >> thank you for your excellent testimony.if i can start with you, doctor rosa, describe a situation that sounds similar to what we've seen in other domains and the kinds of prescriptions you point to are also similar to those we have heard. on the one hand, things that filled up our own capacity and other measures that if they don't slow china down, at least limit what they have to extract from our system. i wanted to ask you about that half of the equation if you could say more about that. the recommendations you may point to data and the other, talent. do you think us laws should be changed so scientists can't participate in biotech area and data, should there be regulations on laws that prohibit the use of chinese companies from genetic data or storage? >> our commission has not developed and endorsed policy recommendations on either of those topics. i can share some of what we are seeing in terms of the overall problem statements but offering a recommendation in either of those areas. to the original point, there are a lo