frieden?re -- therefore well, the federal government has to keep ebola victims out of public arena. that means, and i'm speaking slowly for the doctor, no people from the epidemic area should be admitted to the usa. something frieden opposes, but is absolutely the correct thing to do. >> we need a plan to treat those who are sick, to train health care workers to safely provide care and to stop the spread of this disease here at home and at the source in africa. this includes travel restrictions or bans from that region beginning today. >> even president obama's acolytes are saying that. >> i think the substantive actions have to be taken and they may involve, you know, flight restrictions. >> not only flight restrictions. no admittance to any person holing passports from the ebola epidemic areas. i mean, you could fly to montreal and drive in so the no admittance until we get things sorted out is the right thing on do. finally, i have nothing personally against dr. frieden, but his performance

frieden. dr. frieden, as dr. varga just stated, health care personnel were following cdc protocols while treating mr. duncan. which includes the use of pce, personal protective equipment. do the cdc guidelines, your guidelines, on the use of p.p.e. mirror current international standards that, by the way, are being adhered to, those international standards, in west africa in those three countries, sierra leone, gunea and liberia? >> the international standards are something that evolve and change. we use different p.c.e. in different settings. there's no single right answer, and this is something we're looking at very closely. our current guidelines are kent with recommendations from the world health organization. >> i would think there would need to be, dr. frieden, and i commend you for the job that you are doing, and i know these are tough times for all of us, butt we need, and that brings me to my next question and my last question. again, it's to you, dr. frieden. this issue of elevated temperature, you know,

frieden. you know, what did you think the first patient was going to look like? you knew you would have a patient zero or it was a possibility. we had the gentleman who died in nigeria at the end of july who could have got on a plane to minneapolis. what did you think that was going to look like? what was patient zero going to look like and now you've seen what it really looks like. what is the match up there? >> you may answer quickly, thank you, doctor. >> our goal has been to get hospitals ready. the specific type of personal protective equipment to be used is not simple and there's no single right answer. but there's a balance between protective equipment that's more familiar or less familiar that's more flexible and less flexible, that can be decontaminated more or less easily. the use of different types of protective equipment is something that obviously we're looking at very intensely now in dallas in conjunction with the health care workers there. >> thank you. i recognize for five min

frieden. many people believe the media coverage as well and many of these calls that we're hearing for travel bans and the like are created an undue fear among the american public, after all the odds as president obama put it when he did cancel that trip to hold an emergency meeting here, he said we do not want to create an atmosphere of fear. there have been calls for a czar to look over this. lisa monaco has been charged with overseeing the american response to ebola. and the president in a speech at the cdc, there is also an overseas contingent on this, but an energy czar here to oversea the response statewide. lisa monaco, after all is the homeland security advisor and counter terrorism advisor. many think she obviously has a lot on her plate at this point. there should be others involved as well. so you are likely to hear both of have it real coming from critics those who want to see more restrictions placed around individuals coming from those countries in west africa, and tighter screen

frieden. >> good afternoon, everyone, and thank you very much for joining us. stopping ebola is hard. we're working together to make it safer and easier. yesterday we confirmed the first case of ebola contracted in the united states in a healthcare worker who cared for what we--who we refer to as the index patient in dallas, texas. our thoughts are with this healthcare worker. she is now being cared for, and we understand that she is clinically stable. refer any questions on her care to the hospital where she's being cared for, for the information that she and her family want released is released. the existence of the first case of ebola spread in the u.s. changes some things, and it doesn't change other things. it doesn't change the fact that we know how ebola spreads. it doesn't change the fact that it is possible to take care of ebola safely. but it does change substantially how we approach it. we have to rethink the way we address ebola in infection control. even a single infection can una

frieden, lastly. you know, there again, i'm speaking on behalf of my constituents and every american in this country. i don't believe it is acceptable that the quote you have given us. we won't be able to track them as the reasoning for why we should not implement travel restrictions. i do believe we can. and, mr. wagner, as far as our customs and border patrol, do you believe there's a way that we can implement tracking? >> tracking? >> tracking of individuals. >> yeah, we have ways to determine a person's itinerary and travel. it's easier when they're coming on a direct ticket from those -- >> true. true. but as you pointed out, they're coming from -- thank you, mr. chairman. i thank you for indulging my overtime. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i appreciate you holding this hearing. and i want to thank all of the panelists for coming and participating. and i've talked to arm in of health care professionals, as well. and listening to the panel, as well. i want to join in instituting a travel ban until s

frieden. the first, the support from the cdc, not only overnight but over the last several weeks, we have been working throughout the night trying to gather more information as we get more information that is appropriate, we will provide information. but as dr. frieden noted, we have one healthcare worker. the healthcare worker that had extensive contact did do what was appropriate with early symptoms and to be checked. we did the ebola test. >> cam back. as dr. frieden noted. it was positive. it was appropriate, the amount of virus in her blood it came back. it is a positive. it's our responsibility to get with this individual and the family. healthcare worker who is willing to compassionately care for mr. duncan and was involved with him. we are working to prevent this. we are refining it now. as dr. frieden noted, the 48 original continued to be monitored and doing well. we have this one healthcare worker now, these am, as dr. frieden noted, we are going to have to continue to monitor healt

on his left is thomas frieden.as it turned out earlier in the day the white house press secretary josh earnest said that frieden for the most part is responsible for the problems we've had. >> we've seen this with other stories. we messed up, somebody dropped the ball, we fumbled and the person is not held accountable. who is responsible for these shortcomings? >> you've seen in a couple of instances dr. frieden take responsibility for the c.d.c. not performing up to expectations. at the same time the c.d.c. has been focused on the situation since march. >> maybe that is why the president yesterday said he's considering putting someone in charge, an ebola czar. the president has canceled more appearances, is focusing on this single-handedly. it is a very unique thing to see him change gears, not since the texas oil disaster in the gulf of mexico. >> that was going on inside the white house. outside the white house there were protesters. look at that guy in the ebola containment suit. "stop the flights." what's curi

frieden. they have been going at it. they're still going at it with him and asking him lots of questions. >> okay. we're going to work on getting him back up. okay. i'm going to pause and bring in a doctor who is with me on set. it's live tv. what are you going to do? you are with nyu med center. listening to it and talking about travel bans and preparedness and ppes. you felt bad for dr. frieden as well. >> he's done a good job of keeping the american public up to date on what's going on. he doesn't have all of the answers. no one does but he's keeping everyone involved. i didn't feel surprised by the hearing. one thing that i think looking at all of this is just in terms of incentives for the hospital. there's a few things. they don't have an incentive to be up to date with protocols because in order to do all of these drills and to be totally prepared, they really have to take their doctors and nurses and everybody and move them into actually these drills and not taking care of patients. >> let me jump in to connect t

frieden. the next speaker is dr. david lakey who is the commissioner of the texas department of state health services. dr. lakey can. >> good afternoon, this is david lakey and the commissioner of health in the state of texas the. i want to thank dr. frieden for the support of the cdc work gin on this effort right now. it is one effort and one team. as i start off, i want to say that my thoughts and prayers and our thoughts and prayers are with the patient right now. obviously, he is critically ill, but also with the family as they are going through the event, and the contacts that have been identify identified that are obviously have concern about what is going on with them right now. and also with the hospital workers caring for the ill patient right now. now, as i said earlier, we are doing our work in partnership with the cdc and our local health department here in the state of texas. a lot of very important hard work is taking place right here in texas, in dallas to ensure that the people of dallas are safe. now

narms it out to frieden.must know that he looks like a ridiculous. >> i don't think so, bill. >> he wouldn't come on the factor, beck. we asked him on and he wouldn't come on here and he has to know i would have carved him up and that's why he didn't come on. >> here's the thing. is he easy to carve up. he did his token last night. he talked to one of us, fortunately it was megan and she, you know, carved him up as well. but, all of us can expose this guy. but you don't need to work very hard. it doesn't make any sense i'm living in texas. 11 miles away from the hospital. four employees two of them live in that complex. two of them live a block away from that complex where that nurse was. they haven't had any exposure to this. i have several employees, i have 310 employees. several employees have said to me today, what do we do? should they be here? should they not be here? a, nothing to worry about at this point, b, i don't know what to do. tonight, i mean i actually -- i feel like i'm on the set of the sopr

frieden, they said that would be cdc. i understand all of your reasons why i don't agree with them completely. i understand the concerns about humanitarianism, et cetera. but don't you think we ought to at least restrict travel of dogs? is. >> we'll follow-up in terms of what's possible and indicate it. >> mr. yar dsz mouth, for five minutes. >> thank you. i would like to submit for the record an article entitled "will america's fragmented public health system meet the ebola challenge?" mark rothstein who is head of the bio -- >> i'm gretchen carlson. welcome to the abriefated version of "the real story." has this entire hearing gone to the dogs? as you just heard, that last question from one of the members of congress asking the cdc director tom frieden what about dogs? can dogs carry the virus? can dogs get the virus? can dogs give the virus to humans? didn't get the full answer on that, but we've been watching this for the last couple of hours. we're going to continue to watch this, but we're going to step out of it fo

. >> director frieden, i'll turn that to you. >> thank you. it has been stated publicly that the first patient is a nurse. i will just say that the second patient as well as the first had extensive contact with the patient when they were having substantial amounts of both vomiting and diarrhea. the assessment of the team is that in those first several days in the hospital, a variety of forms of personal protective equipment were used. there are several ways to use personal protective equipment safely. it's critical that that be done consistently and correctly. and that's one of the areas of active investigation. >> our next question is from fox news. your line is open. >> thank you for taking the call. i'm curious if you can go into some more detail, how this nurse was able to get on an aircraft and not being monitored or quarantined if she had been in contact with the patient, the index patient, thomas duncan, in texas? >> director frieden, do you want to speak to that? >> the patient traveled to ohio before it was known that the first health

frieden doctor by phone. it would be a mistake to say that the -- it would not be wrong to say that the first case of ebola was mismanaged. i know both of these gentleman will be transparent and forthright in helping me understand why how we can understand our response when another person, and it will inevitably happen, shows up at the emergency room with these kinds of symptoms. i appreciate the steps taken by c.d.c. and customs. these steps are appropriate. as some call for cutting off all travel, as the chairman said, this will be reasonable to be able to stop anybody with ebola from coming into the united states. we don't want to take steps that would endanger americans by interfering with efforts to halt an outbreak in africa. you know, there is no such thing as forterss america when it comes to infectious diseases. the best way to stop ebola is going to be to stop this virus in africa. efforts from doctors without borders have told us a quarantine on travel would have a quote catastrophic impact on west

i think that's what tom frieden said today. so i think the risks outweigh the reward of maybe having to spend a few more bucks to help them out financially. >> you've been in west africa. you know the medical problems there. it does have an affect on their economy, doesn't it? >> well, i think what the president is facing right now is two bad options. there are consequences for a travel ban. and there are consequences for not doing the travel ban. so what leadership is is making a decision not based on what the american people are asking for. if that was the case we never would have done the surge and had the success we had in iraq at that time. but on this case, i think that the president will have to choose the least bad option, and i think that consensus is forming around a travel ban is necessary. and i take that after having for several days tried to listen to the experts the man would writes for national review, a health care expert, he writes a very smart piece today on national review. i encourage people to take a look

frieden certainly didn't help. >> and very quickly, what do you think about tom frieden?uld he stay in that job? >> i think there is a lot of questions to be answered. we need him to do his mart to protect -- his part to protect the american people but he has to start giving answers. >> and we he does have to do his job and all come together to resolve this president. here is the president of the united states. >>> i want to give the american people an update on what has happened today. obviously everybody remained deeply concerned about the ebola situation. i've been working with my team to address a number of issues that have been raised both publicly as well as at the state and local levels. so number one, obviously our heart felt concern goes out to the two nurses who have been infected. they courageously treated mr. duncan when he was in dallas. it is typical of what nurses do. each and every day, caring for us. and one has now been transferred to n.i.h., national institute of health facilities and the other one has been transferred to emory university. they are gett

frieden doctor by phone. it would be a mistake to say that the -- it would not be wrong to say that the first case of ebola was mismanaged. i know both of these gentleman will be transparent and forthright in helping me understand why how we can understand our response when another person, and it will inevitably happen, shows up at the emergency room with these kinds of symptoms. i appreciate the steps taken by c.d.c. and customs. these steps are appropriate. as some call for cutting off all travel, as the chairman said, this will be reasonable to be able to stop anybody with ebola from coming into the united states. we don't want to take steps that would endanger americans by interfering with efforts to halt an outbreak in africa. you know, there is no such thing as forterss america when it comes to infectious diseases. the best way to stop ebola is going to be to stop this virus in africa. efforts from doctors without borders have told us a quarantine on travel would have a quote catastrophic impact on west

frieden talked about many of the components. our top priority right now is the contact investigation. the hard work is taking place. we've pulled in additional staff from throughout the state of texas. complimenting the work of the cdc and the dallas health department's staff and so we're bringing in the resources to do the contact investigation from many different levels of government to identify those individuals and contact them as quickly as possible. dr. frieden talked about infectious control. a critical component of this response. looking hard at the infectious control practices and making sure that they are even more stringent than what they are right now and have cdc experts, the best here working with us to make sure that we are as stringent as possible with infection control. the health care worker's apartment initial cleaning has been done. initial evaluation and cleaning will be accomplished today. we're doing this with local leaders but -- but other with other state agencies to make sure that we do that in accordan

frieden should resign. as he well knows, charter flights could carry medical and military personnel to africa and that's the way they should be transported, by charter. so that monitoring can be very close. believing that civilian airport people in jfk or newark or dulles airport can spot ebola that is dormant, believing that is stupid and irresponsible and puts all americans at risk. it's a dumb and dangerous ruse and frieden is the chief prop gandist. he knows better. talking points is just asking for common sense. which the obama administration is rejecting outright. but i will predict tonight they will soon reverse course. again, there is no compelling reason for west africans to come to the united states at this point in time. secondly on ebola, we're simply not being told the truth. how did the nbc news cameraman contract the disease? ashoka mukpo is being treated and we don't know how he got it in africa. americans have a right to know that. this has to stop. the federal government has to level with

narms it out to frieden.must know that he looks like a ridiculous. >> i don't think so, bill. >> he wouldn't come on the factor, beck. we asked him on and he wouldn't come on here and he has to know i would have carved him up and that's why he didn't come on. >> here's the thing. is he easy to carve up. he did his token last night. he talked to one of us, fortunately it was megan and she, you know, carved him up as well. but, all of us can expose this guy. but you don't need to work very hard. it doesn't make any sense i'm living in texas. 11 miles away from the hospital. four employees two of them live in that complex. two of them live a block away from that complex where that nurse was. they haven't had any exposure to this. i have several employees, i have 310 employees. several employees have said to me today, what do we do? should they be here? should they not be here? a, nothing to worry about at this point, b, i don't know what to do. tonight, i mean i actually -- i feel like i'm on the set of the sopr

tom frieden, be fired?ld us october 2nd essentially any hospital in the country can take care of ebola. he went on to explain all you need is a private room, hospitals they have training, there's little risk to the population. any advanced hospital has the capacity to isolate a patient. they just need a room and a private bathroom. should he be fired? >> take a combat leader out in the middle of a fight is outrageous. it is absolutely irresponsible. >> combat leader? he's a combat loser. >> not only did he do that, he blamed the nurses. >> let me finish my point. not only should he not be fired, we need a surgeon general in the united states. why don't we have a surgeon general? if the president's nominee is unacceptable, what the president has to do is appoint an ebola czar right now. tom frieden, head of one agriculture dealing with this, is not sufficient. you need an ebola czar. the man we should appoint is lieutenant general russell henri who headed up the united states army, big run one. he brought ca

frieden, you have a difficult job. in fact, all of your colleagues who are involved from the different agencies have a difficult job, because this is a fast-moving issue. to explain things withople and educate them limited information and partial authority. the cdc cannot even do anything in a state. they have to be invited in the state. you cannot tell the states to follow your guidelines. you can give them guidelines read your dealing with a fast-moving situation, you have to strike a balance about informing the public on the one hand and keeping it from taking on the other. from panicking on the other. so let's go to basics. if people are frightened about getting ebola, what assurances can we give them that this is not going to be a widespread academic in the united states come as you have said, on numerous occasions? >> concern is first and foremost caring for people with ebola. that is why we are so concerned with infection control and where -- anywhere in the health-care system as a whole, to think about travel,

thomas frieden.lls for his resignation over how the feds have handled this ebola threat including the decision not to impose travel bans. brit hume is our senior political analyst. what did you thing? >> you asked the right questions, megyn, and dr. frieden seems like a very nice man and probably a very fine doctor struggled with the fact that some of the things he was saying to you that the information was clear and it was correct and all that was manifestly not true based on what he himself ultimately conceded during the course of the interview. and iz explanation like previous ones that have been given for the reasons for not imposing a travel ban to keep people from infected areas out of this country for the time being i thought makes no sense. you would not have to have an actual ban on flights. you can do it through the visa system where you will not allow people with visas from those countries to come here for now. flights would come and go. it wouldn't keep anybody from going there. the expla

tom frieden also saying the first person diagnosed with ebola in the u.s. is, quote, fighting for his life in a dallas hospital. this is coming after the liberian nationals condition was downgraded from serious to critical. that happening just yesterday. brian has the latest now from our new york newsroom. >> hi. thomas eric duncan remains in isolation in dallas where he's been for a week. today dr. frieden, the head of the centers for disease control said duncan is not being treated with experimental medication at this time. frieden said while experimental pred sin is promising there's certain it can initially make someone sicker. the four family members who shared an apartment with duncan are still in quarantine in a prouft home in dallas. they have shown no 1i789s. a hazmat team decontaminated the apartment. the cdc is confident they will stop the ebola virus in dallas thanks in large part to their ability to track everybody who may have been in contact with duncan. 48 people are being checked for fevers over the course of 21 days. 10 of those people def

tom frieden will testify, after acknowledging there have been mistakes and missteps. among the questions he will likely need to answer, are hospitals across the country prepared to deal with another case of ebola? does there need to be an ebola czar? something a lot of lawmakers are calling for. does there need to be a travel ban put into effect? the white house has said a travel ban is not necessary. and has also said a czar is not necessary. but undoubtedly, those will be among the topics of conversation on capitol hill today. president obama continuing to say he has confidence in tom frieden and an outbreak in the united states is very unlikely. craig. >> kristen welker from the white house, thank you. dallas county commissioners are announcing travel restrictions on any health care worker who helped treat duncan before he died of ebola. the tom administrative official here in dallas county is leading the county's response to ebola.

frieden to resign. why?hing that's been happening with this ebola outbreak and the way that the cdc has been handling. dr. frieden said that this was a problem in west africa put all the resources, cdc and the web site said august 6th in two or three months have things under control. quote: well, it's two or three months later. we don't have everything under control. we have patients coming over here. we have people coming through the border. one case in dallas has created chaos. is he criticizing protocols. what protocols. it's his protocols now that is he going to revise one more time. we are not equipped to handle ebola patients in general. you feel his stewardship has failed? >> completely. >> reason i'm down on dr. frieden is he continues to put out the myth that stopping west africans from coming in here to the united states is somehow going to diminish fight the disease in africa. that's false. we can charter people in that's the way they should go anyway watch them closely when they come back out. it

frieden. a second nurse infected with ebola took a flight to cleveland after she registered a fever. that says shert contacted the cdc and was told she could fly. call the krbdt and ask for -- the cdc and ask for guidance on boarding a flight?al >> my understanding is she did contact cdc and we discussed her her reported symptoms. >> were you part of that conversation? not., i was >> was there a plan suggesting limiting her contact with persons? movement andol for monitoring of people potentially to ebola identifies as high risk someone who did not appropriate personal protective equipment during the time they cared for a patient ebola. on -- >> let me ask you this then. what specifically did she tell you? we know mr. duncan, the medical same -- waser the not under the same observation hevel restrictions as people came into contact with. what specifically did she tell you her symptoms were? the have not seen transcript of the conversation. my understanding is that she reported no symptoms to u

frieden also said. it was that i believe it was earlier this week he noted that knowing what he knows now about the situation in the hospital, he indicated that he regretted not sending a team of experts to that hospital sooner to assist the hospital as they responded to this specific diagnosis. what are you are seeing from the federal government, however, it's the kind of tenacious response that reflects evolving circumstances. dr. frieden indicated that if -- that this protects the health and safety of the american public. there are other ways in which this has happened as well. you know, we have adapted to

director, director frieden. that will likely be growing in the next several days. >> events canceled at the white house indicate that other events might be canceled as well? >> no. as far as we know, the president was supposed to travel to rhode island to give a speech on the economy today. then he was supposed to go to long island in new york. those events are canceled. as far as we know, those are the only events that are canceled. he was suppose today go to new hampshire. that has been postponed. the president is supposed to go back to connecticut at some point, but it is unclear when he'll do so. >> any indication that the president might address this concern directly in a speech or republicans?to is there anything along those grounds? >> we do not know if he will or he won't. that's something we will be watching closely today. >> talking about the white house response to ebola. there is a story on "the washington post" web site. thank you. >> thank you. >> again, you are hearing the president is canceling s

frieden is vowing that won't happen again. people with ebola won't be able to jump on a commercial plane. this latest patient success transported today to atlanta to emory university hospital there, emory is one of four hospitals in the united states certified to treat ebola patients, and also where three ebola patients have been treated. meantime back to the white house, president obama is actually postponing his campaign trips today to both new jersey and connecticut in order to stay put to meet this next hour with high level government agencies who are coordinating the government's response here to ebola. so let's get right to dallas to kick this coverage off to elizabeth cohen. as i mentioned, lots of moving parts on this story right now. let's begin with this 29-year-old health care worker there from the hospital in front of where you stand, who is she. how did this happen? >> reporter: her name is amber vincent. as you said she's a 29-year-old nurse, brooke. we don't know much more than that except we do know she's movin

frieden be fired? >> absolutely. when he first offered these false assurances to the united states, he knew they were a lie because how can hospitals in the united states that cannot stop the spread of staph and other common infections that kill 75,000 people a year in our hospitals, how can they possibly control ebola? >> doctor, look, i don't think he has any credibility. he can't be a credible spokesman on this issue any longer. he's been so wrong. and as recently as october 5th. >> sean, here's the thing i'm most concerned with as the surgeon general. there was an assumption that all the work we did in the last decade regarding preparedness after 9/11 which included biopreparedness for all of these agents that we're running into today that in fact all the hospitals we're trained and we're practicing and doing all these scenarios we're supposed to do. if this hospital was having these problems then it is really incumbent upon us that to not assume that for every other hospital and make sure the integrity of our sy

tom frieden that basically the nurse was to blame for her illness. this is pretty nasty stuff on the part of frieden the man who refuses to be forthcoming much what is actually happening in the cdc and in these cases of ebola. >> my first comment isn't going to go as far as you've gone. i think the cdc has been way too formal in observing -- in other words, they've been leaving this to the dallas hospitals who have no experience with protocol whatsoever. no experience with hazmat suits whatsoever. nurses are wearing them that don't have any experience with it. i feel the centers for disease control should have been much more involved with this. and, by the way, this kind of problem, this fumble, causes a great deal of fear and alarm and worry on the part of the american public, and it should. if we can't -- if we don't have anybody we can rely on to help us through this epidemic in africa and this crisis here, we can't feel comfortable. lou: i sense more an attitude here, doctor, that is disturbing. it is a bureaucratic, that the federal government c

frieden calmy shrugs it off. >> bottom line is results. we saved lives. >> and when he came under fire for the mishandling of dangerous lab samples at the cdc just months before the ebola outbreak, we saw those skills put to use. >> i'm disappointed by what happened and frankly i'm angry about it. >> the thing about being overly confident it's risky. >> this is no doubt in my mind that we can stop it in its tracks here. >> but frieden's message seems to be what a frightened country needs right now. >>> up next, a big star with an even bigger cause. we hear a lot about celebrities and their causes. matt damon may be a little bit different. you decide, after this. [ male announcer ] this is the cat that drank the milk... [ meows ] ...and let in the dog that woke the man who drove to the control room [ woman ] driverless mode engaged. find parking space. [ woman ] parking space found. [ male announcer ] ...that secured the data that directed the turbines that powered the farm that made the milk that went to the store that reminded the man to

frieden and dr. fauci, they need to pipe down. they need a czar to do the messaging. it's one step forward and two steps back. they need a czar. >> is there anybody in particular? >> absolutely. harold bench. he's from green county, springfield, missouri. he has a 30-year history in public health. he knows. and if asked, he will do it. >> i'm almost afraid to ask you this question because you were so right in your predictions when other people were even attacking you for suggesting that it was going to be much worse than the government was telling us. for those that don't remember dr. mobley put on a full hazmat suit, goggles, full gear and had on the back the cdc's lying and you walks through hartsfield airport in atlanta. i'm a little hesitant to ask you what you see coming next? >> i don't know what's keeping this out of every third world countries in the world. and don't forget we live in one of the biggest third world countries in the world. >> you're talking about new mexico. >> absolutely. it's going to devastate them. >> and they're going to race over our bord

frieden was being completely transparent. first, he said all the folks exposed to the original ed bo la patient were being monitored. and none had a fever. >> we surged our response so we've tracked every one of those 48 patients in conjunction with the folks in texas, those contacts of the initial patient, every day they've been tracked. none of them have a fever. >> but dr. frieden left out the fact that 76 other people who had initial contact with the patient were left to "self-monitor." and one of those people, a nurse, not only had a fever but had been admitted to that same texas hospital yesterday morning. now through a spokesman tonight he told us he didn't know about her fever until overnight last night after his appearance on "the kelly file." why not? and how could that be possible if as just broke this evening before we came to air the cdc told this nurse on monday that she could fly despite a fever. his underlings knew and either they didn't tell him or he didn't tell us last night. then we challenged whether the

i believe that frieden has done a very mediocre response. >> we went through the secret service scandal, and the cia scandal. >> last time i checked, he's still in charge of the cdc. now to cover his butt, president obama appoints this new guy, who doesn't know anything about health matters, but he's a spinner. he's going to get what the white house wants out there, klain. i don't mean that in a derogative way. >> interesting the president last night, you slowed to the clip, he said he was going to kf appointing a czar, he obviously had already decided to appoint ron klain. >> because frieden's screwing up. you say guys like me are making him a villain and it doesn't sol the problem. >> frieden couldn't explain whether you get it on a bus or not, howard, that's what creates panic, not foolish over the top reporting, and i agree there's some of that, but i don't think it's epidemic, part the pun. >> i don't have any objection if frieden is fired tomorrow. but his not having a philosophical objection to a travel ban. >> he knows he's wrong, they can't explain why there's no travel ban, an

thomas frieden, and chief of staff. we're expecting comments from the president any moment to try once again to calm the public, after yet another day where there were more questions raised about whether the government really has a handle on this. while cdc director thomas frieden was in the hot seat on capitol hill, he left the door open to more health care workers infected with ebola. >> we hope no more will, but we know that's a possibility, since two individuals became infected. >> reporter: president obama was also taking fire, for a slow response to the crisis. even from a democratic congressman, campaigning for the u.s. senate, who just appeared with first lady michelle obama last friday. >> i'm greatly concerned that the administration did not act fast enough in responding in texas. we need to look at all the options available to keep our families safe and move quickly and responsibly to make any necessary changes. >> reporter: the president continues to reject such a travel ban that a growing number of democrat

frieden what everyone wants to know. what that conversation was between this healthcare professional, who made the cdc aware she had a low-grade fever before she got on the plane and made them aware she was getting on a plane in the first place, were you clear about what that conversation was? i wasn't listening to the testimony. >> the cdc has not answered my question about why she was allowed to get on that plane after she self-reported having a fever. the way i read the cdc guidelines, all of those individuals who are being self-monitored, they shouldn't be traveling on commercial transportation and so this is something i think will be clarified now. i don't think they'll let those folks travel. it's part of a bigger question that i want to know. seems like there was some very slip shot things by the hospital in dallas and cdc in early stages and that's why we have more infections now. >> on some of that, you pointed to, you know, a diagram in a newspaper that i woke up and saw first thing this morning when it comes t

host: the man in the hot seat is tom frieden? guest: that's correct. tom frieden has been there since 2009. he's been relatively low-key. you don't hear much about the cdc until there's something like this that occurs. and i think we'll hear him again explain the new protocols that they announced earlier this week to protect health care workers and to limit or stop the spread of this to health care workers who treat ebola patients. i think you'll hear him talk about regrets about the way the initial case was handled in dallas, about not having cdc staff on the ground more quickly, and in gritter numbers. i think you're going to hear him talk about whatever shortcomings they think may have happened in the first case versus what they're doing now to deal with the two health care workers who have been diagnosed, and also about the really interesting isolation hospitals, places where they can treat patients with contagious diseases and specialized isolation units, one of them is at emory university in atlanta, they moved a second health care worker there y

because frieden is screwing up. get back to frieden.you say guys like me are making him a villain and it doesn't solve the problem. he couldn't explain frieden. frieden couldn't explain get it on a bus or not, howard. that's what creates panic. not foolish over-the-top reporting. i agree there is some of that. i don't think it's epidemic, par don't pun. >> i don't have any problem if frieden is fired tomorrow. interestingly, when a president talked about his not having a philosophical objection to a travel ban, that is the sound of a politician retreating, bill under the pressure. >> of course is he retreating. he knows he is wrong. they can't explain why there is no travel=g>+ ban. and he goes well, it's not as effective as -- hey, you don't have to do anything else. just throw that in the mix. do all the other things screening at the airport. no medical training at the airport. there is one. come on over here. that's insane. all right? >> the administration is going to cave on this sooner rather than later. elections two and a half w

you know what, tom frieden's a doctor. we doctors are not as smooth sometimes as communication experts. people like yourself are great with words. you know, things come out the wrong wayment i didn't like it when the nurse nina pham was sort of implicated. i mean, you know, megyn, a kid in high school or college that says i want to be a nurse, that's a special person. and to have this kind of turned on her at the last minute, or at least the implication, i was offended by that. >> and then the cdc tried to dial that back and said we didn't mean to blame her. and yet today federal sources, unnamed federal sources speaking to our own john roberts came out and tried to blame the second nurse saying we went back and spoke with family members of the second nurse and they said her symptoms were worse than she told us on the telephone. it's like this woman called you to ask if she could fly, are we supposed to believe she was trying to hide certain things but disclose fever? >> i mean, these people, these two nurses, ms. vinson a