" which had to do with how modern european intellectuals from voltaire in the 18th century to friedrich hayek in the 20th century thought about capitalism and its moral and cultural ramifications. while i was -- that, ultimately, came out in 2003. while i was working on that book, i published another smaller book on adam smith as a social and political thinker called "adam smith and his time and ours: designing the decent society." and then after "the mind and the market" came out, i worked for a while on these more jewish-oriented themes, and i've continued to think about and write about the history of capitalism. last year in, i think, the march issue of the journal foreign affairs in 2013 i had a piece called capitalism and inequality, what the right and left get wrong. that explored some of the long-term themes in capitalism, and i'm still working on it. it's a big topic. >> host: is there a date certain when it was founded? >> guest: no. in fact, one of the interesting fallacies, i think, in writing the history of capitalism, one that's now been dispelled among some historians, is precis