there's also a bunch of new types of appliances, we install steamers a lot and -- >> i saw a deep fat frier out here that is incorporated, we'll see it when we take a walk. is that cool? what is this? >> treshtime. -- fresh thyme. it says use fresh time or pepper, i'm going to -- fresh thyme or pepper, i'm going to do a batch with thyme. >> foodies always want professional-level appliances, that's a trend now. it's high b.t.u.'s, vikings, then high-powered hoods and things like that. the commercial look is very in right now. >> you say it's a look, i agree it's a look. but i'm a foodie and i'm a cook and i have in my house a stove that i bought and it -- it wasn't the look. it simply didn't put out enough b.t.u.'s to cook. it wasn't enough. there's more to it than looking professional. >> of course, of course. it acts it, as well. >> taking great umbrage. no, no. there's a real need. if we turn one of these burners on here, see if we can turn something on. that's enough for cooking at home, for some people. that 15,000 b.t.u.'s. >> what do you have at your house? >> it's a little over 20,00