it's a mirror image of the view. >> paul: 84% of the stop and frisk people who are stopped and friskedre minorities including to 2011 and 88% of those stop and frisked, no summons and no arrest. so the accusation, its kind of racial profiling and number two, it's way over done. you don't need to do it because these people aren't threatening. >> but it doesn't take the deterrence effect it could be having. if people know there are police presence in the community are they less likely to be engaged in behavior or carrying items that are illegal. this is based on behavior. that is what ben doesn't want to talk about. they are talking about the relevance of the naacp. they are in the grievance industry and they don't want to ignore the black behavior that is driving these policies. only 13% of the population but 50% of the people committing homicides and 90% of the victims are other black people. >> paul: is it still overdone? >> i think the tradeoff in saved lives is worth it. if you go talk to the people in these communities, mayor bloomberg said innocent people don't like to get shot. m

it starts with stop and frisk. an activity that might be seen as a harmless activity, if engaged in by a white kid, if it's a black or brown kid, they're going to juvi. a white kid may be sent home, don't do that again. it starts this school-to-prison pipeline. it just starts a whole array of problems. so stop and frisk, i think, is really problematic. in los angeles, i believe there was a code called nhi. it meant no human involved. this was a police code which meant black and brown people. the work we've done on brain science and behavioral science seems to indicate that many people associate criminality with black people. and brown people. so having the stop and frisk as a way to deal with this i think is an overreaction and is a way that we might just cause more harm. >> very concerning. i want to come back to the brain science. we talk solutions in just a moment. i want to turn now to you, dr. briscoe-smith for more of the real world impact on this. i know you, as well, mina, have looked at this as a health is

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when we talk about stop and frisk the main thing we need with stop and frisk not only in detroit but almost virtually any city in america you have got to have probable cause. and that is what we preach here in detroit. you have got to have probable cause. >> geraldo: don't you in some of these neighborhoods with some of the gang bangers and some of the other -- i tell you there is three guys hanging around on some dark street corner and there is nothing around or they are obviously any reasonable person would say they are up to no good. can't the policeman approach them and say hey guys, what is up and if he is not satisfied with the answer say i'm going to frisk your pockets? >> yeah, one of the things that the officer -- the main thing the officer has to show is that he has a reasonable suspicion to stop and frisk that person. we just don't want to randomly search people. we can't do that. we have to have probable cause and then if we have probable cause if we can articulate probable cause we can do our stop and frisk. >> geraldo: chief, i'm out of time but i wish you the best. i r

can they stop and frisk you? >> well, yes and no.that you're a shop lifter, there's rules that they can detain you until police arrive on the scene. they thought he was a shop lifter, patting him down until the cops got there. it's pretty stupid by a low-end employee and i think the store is going to be embarrassed by that. >> one of the things we'll never know, we don't know, the state of mind of the employee here. how can you really ever prove when it was a honest mistake or some kind of racial profiling? paul? >> you know, done prove that. and forest whitaker would have to start a whole lawsuit. and he played idi amin. he's a tough guy. i think he can survive this incident. >> given the gentleman that he is, he didn't even want to call the authorities for fear of having that employee lose his job. what a guy, huh? but it happens every day. it sheds a big light on it and sh-t shouldn't happen. because of this, perhaps it will happen less. >> would it be worth his while to make an issue out of this, joey? >> it certainly could be. i

like this guy. >> an employee of a deli, you're going to frisk me.l the police and have the police frisk me but keep your hands off of me. >> absolutely. >> yes, deli, he won an oscar for god's sake. >> okay, there are probably better scenes. >> hey, billy. how you doing? >> we got billy bob thornton. so we asked him a bunch of tattoo questions. can you describe the feeling you had when you got the first tattoo? >> that was so long ago. it was in 1974 which back then people didn't get tattoos. just people in the navy or bikers. now you go to the dentist and now the dentist has a tattoo. >> it's so true. >> on a woman when they get a tattoo on their back, it's called a tramp stamp. what is it called when a man has a tattoo on his back? >> stupid. >> we had this good conversation so our camera guy pushes farther. >> it's valentine's day and you're happy and excited but she's on her thing, are you still going in? >> normally i don't divulge that kind of information but i've never been shy. >> and then he says also i'm a cardinal fan. >> billy bob thornt

about. >> reporter: reaction to stop and frisk threatened to sink plans to get it under control. >> what he is doing elsewhere may of worked does not mean it is going to work here. >> reporter: here in holly names university -- holy names university was nowhere to be seen but the man who hired him came out. >> when he comes in will be focusing on improvements in the police department to strengthen their reaction to crime, including performance management and intelligence and inguestigative community and how personal is assigned nothing to do with stop and frisk. >> many are being trained. >> reporter: but the emphasis is on community involvement. >> this is the first of many steps that we will be taking, listening to the community and taking their feedback and putting it together in a plan. >> reporter: one woman leaving tonight told me she was encouraged. she said she learned that until now oakland police did not have a vision and she says the chief and the mayor did not sit down together regularly. she is ep couraged because now they do. reporting live in oakland, kpix- 5. >>> the

the author david frisk spoke about his book at the heritage foundation in washington d.c. [applause] >> well, thank you, john. good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. there were two bills at "national review" and the conservative movement, to bill buckley, a brilliant shooting star who lit up the sky and bill rusher, but never wavering northstar by which conservatives learned to chart their political quarters. many have written about william f. buckley junior that irresistible renaissance man, but no one had told david frisk has given us an in-depth portrait of the other bill of williama rusher romanticized her contributions played a pivotal role in the lash of the national draft goldwater committee and that was critical because if there had been no goldwater, they would no presidential candidate barry goldwater in 1964 and a third had no candidate goldwater in 1964, there would have been no president elect ronald reagan in 1980. it is goldwater who approved reagan's famous time for choosing television address, which made reagan a political star overnight and led to his runn

i'm going to jump out, frisk 'em, see if they've got anything on them. with good intentions, i'm doing my job, doing what i should do to keep this neighborhood safe. now, that same officer may see a group of young white kids walking down the street, and the thought would never cross his mind to jump out of his car and have those kids spread eagled on the pavement frisking them. that officer may not hold any evil intent to those young black men, but those unconscious biases about who looks like a criminal, who seems like they're up to no good play out over and over again hundreds of thousands of times in just one city, you know? as i mentioned, adding up to these e more now -- enormous racial disparities. the same thing with prosecutors. prosecutors display, you know, considerable bias in making charging decisions about who seems like they should be given a good deal, who's worthy of a second chance, who seems like they're, you know, somebody who's just a tough kid who can't be turned around, and the book should be thrown a at 'em. so these unconscious bi

. >> an employee of a deli, you're going to frisk me. you call the police and have the police frisk me but keep your hands off of me. >> absolutely. >> yes, deli, he won an oscar for god's sake. >> okay, there are probably better scenes. >> hey, billy. how you doing? >> we got billy bob thornton. so we asked him a bunch of tattoo questions. can you describe the feeling you had when you got the first tattoo? >> that was so long ago. it was in 1974 which back then people didn't get tattoos. just people in the navy or bikers. now you go to the dentist and now the dentist has a tattoo. >> it's so true. >> on a woman when they get a tattoo on their back, it's called a tramp stamp. what is it called when a man has a tattoo on his back? >> stupid. >> we had this good conversation so our camera guy pushes farther. >> it's valentine's day and you're happy and excited but she's on her thing, are you still going in? >> normally i don't divulge that kind of information but i've never been shy. >> and then he says also i'm a cardinal fan. >> billy bo

that -- stop and frisk. that policy could be coming to oakland. william bratton ised a an -- advocate of stop and frisk. critics call it racial profiling. supporters say it's an effective tool in the fight against crime. >> a con vick it rapist who fled the country has been arrested in mexico. he was arrested in acapulco. convicted of rape, robbery, and burglary in fess -- fresno county in mid-december. three days after he disappeared. his father is an assistant chief with the chp was arrested for allegedly helping in the escape. two other family members were also arrested. >> we have new details about saturday's collision between a fer are and a speedboat on san francisco bay. the coast guard is now conducting interviews as part of its investigation. here the passengers are shown leaving the ms san francisco after the collision. the speedboat is now in a salvage yard. the two men aboard the vessel were injured. sky 7hd was over the ms san francisco this morning. it's operating again today and ferry service is running on schedule. >>> thousands of

david frisk. [applause] >> well, thank you. for that wonderful introduction of me and more importantly william rusher. can everyone here all right? i suspect there's a very wide range in this room of familiarity and relative unfamiliarity with bill rusher, who was the publisher of "national review" for 31 years. almost from the beginning. and can all be said to have had a half century long career in american politics, with something of a privileged ringside or front row seat. he never ran for public office, never held public office, never really founded anything on his own as a number of conservative leaders did and became identified, never controlled his own institution. he was as i put it in my introduction, "if not us "if no william rusher, 'national review,' and the conservative movement," published last ever, he was at the edge of the limelight. a lot of people do very well who he was. a lot of people knew a lot less about him. but as people became aware of william rusher, there was a general agreement among the whole frac

the police department reported that in one year alone, just one year alone it stopped and frisked more than 600,000 people one year alone. -- challenge these racial disparities in a court of law in the series of cases beginning with armstrong versus the united states the supreme court has ruled explicitly that it doesn't matter how overwhelming the evidence might be pivoted doesn't matter how severe the racial disparities are unless you can offered proof, tantamount to an admission by a police officer or a law enforcement official you can't even state the criminal-justice system today. so many of the racial profiling cases that i was litigating the court had to close the courthouse doors to claim the racial bias at every stage of the criminal justice process from the stops and surges to bargaining and sentencing. in so many ways the u.s. supreme court has effectively immunized the system of mass incarceration from judicial scrutiny for the racial bias much in the same way the u.s. supreme court rallied to the defense of slavery and again to the defense of jim-crow in the earlier era. b

compare chicago with new york, new york has stop and frisk. chicago has three and a half times more murder per capita than new york does. >> laura: gang violence. >> absolutely more gun violence. you see a gang banger, a bunch of them hanging out on the street, that cop, if it's in a precinct that has a certain level of gun violence, that cop has the right to go roust those kids what are you doing here? what you have got in your pocket that's how you eliminate by going to the criminal perpetrator. >> laura: we are almost out of time. h.h.s. contraception mandate, all these lawsuits about 40 or so filed against the administration. most on religious grounds. now, h.h.s. comes out with a slightly expanded exemption. tell us about it. i'm looking for the name of the company. the hobby. >> laura: hobby lobby. >> right. hobby lobby is a christian owner of this crafts chain who said that he is not going to provide abortion-related services or birth control related services because he personally as a christian opposes it. now, the new expanded exempti

down the street with their pants hanging down and they think to themselves i'm going to jump out, frisk them come see if they have anything on them, with good intentions, i'm doing my job to keep the neighborhood safe. now, the same officer may see a group of white kids walking down the street and the thought never crossed his mind to jump out of the car and have the kids spread-eagled on the pavement frisking them to hold any evil intent to those young black men. but he looks like a criminal and seems like they are up to no good played out over and over again. there are studies published in the "san jose mercury news" for example showing that prosecutors displayed the considerable bias charging the decisions about who seems like they should be given a good deal, who is worthy of a second chance, who seems like there's somebody that is just a tough kid that can't be turned around and the book should be thrown at him. so this plays out in the crimes and types of offenses. so when we talk about violent crime, i think it is important to race of the violent crime are much higher among black

stop and frisk is a must, it must happen. these criminals are holding drugs, money, weapons, et cetera, et cetera. crime must be stopped now. that district is a really bad district. i know it's not the only one, but i'm asking for this to be done. we need hard core law enforcement down there all the time. it's a must. teach these criminals a lesson. thank you very much. i would like to give this to the police commissioners and greg sur. much respect to all of you. thank you. >> thank you. ms. brown, are you ready? >>> [speaker not understood]. okay, i'm going to play it. >> okay. >> [speaker not understood]. >>> i'm showing this all the time because, again, our children are being senselessly murdered on the street to senseless violence. my son is also on this video. along with a lot of other men that have been murdered on the streets of san francisco. i know there was a press conference concerning calvin collins today and i grieve -- i understand what that family is going through. and it's been many years for that family also

paul, have you ever been frisked in the store? >> i never have. i had a gun stuck in my back once. >> is this something that people have no idea what's going jon. >> i think people are getting more sensitive to it as it happens in new york city. there's a big issue to their policies as they relate to stopping and frisking. stores don't want to be shoplifted with. but you have to make sure and identity and have some reasonable basis to do it, just not look at the color of someone's skin and say, you know what, i'm going to pat/frisk you. in the future, it makes it better, but it's more unfortunate that incidents like this go on. >> this is a major issue in new york city. there's a class action lawsuit pending in federal court. people in the african-american/hispanic community say that cops are abusing them repeatedly. this is a big issue. of course, now, the police were not involved in this incident, but it sheds light on it and i think it sheds light on how african-american citizens get -- >> i think we have to see a more forest whitaker movies. >

the ruling comes one month after judge scheindlin ordered the police to seize stop and frisk procedures. those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. >> i'm nermeen shaikh. today we spend the hour looking at president obama's state of the union address and proposals on the economy, climate change, afghanistan, and immigration. we begin with his call for new gun control. obama called on congress to reform gun-control measures, including background checks and bans and what he described as weapons of war and massive ammunition magazines. obama said each of these proposals deserves a vote in congress. >> if you want to vote no, that is your choice, but the proposal deserves a vote. in the two months since the newtown, or the 1000 birthdays, graduations, anniversaries, have been stolen from our lives by a bullet from a gun. more than 1000. one of those we lost was a young girl named hadiya pendleton. she was 15 years old. she loved fake newtons she was so good to her friends, they all thought they were her best friend.

you can't just go out and frisk them. these guys think somebody is coming to their house to take away their shotgun? there's no precedent for this. we are so scared to invade people's privacy in this country that the only time you get checked -- you don't get checked getting on a train. the only time is getting on an airplane. >> chris, you like american history. you reach hitch ard hoffstetter. from the very beginning, this country was born with this conflict between people who were fearful of big government and those who weren't. and people like wayne lapierre and others just found these flames. they make a lot of money doing it. it supports them politically. >> why does it work? >> i think they are preying on fears and worries and anxieties. >> is he crazy like a sfox? >> i think he's crazy like millions of the other people. i don't know if he believes this stuff. >> i think he behaves like the people who are scared. that's what i think works. by the way, the class thing is so important here. if you can convince the av

for the police chief to lead the discussion, but protesters have strongly objected to his stop-and-frisk tactics used in those cities, saying the practice leads to racial profiling do they they have decided to keep him out of the spotlight. today's meeting take place in the performing arts center at holy name university from 3:00 to 5:00 this afternoon. >> the woman killed on her bike in front of at&t park yesterday morning has now burn identified by san francisco police. 48-year-old diane sullivan of san francisco was involved in a collision with a cement truck traveling west on king street across from the ballpark. police say the truck driver is cooperating, and it does not appear drugs or alcohol were involved. >> coming up next, a new report commissioned by the paterno family has just been released. why the family calls penn state's analysis of the jerry sandusky child sex abuse scandal a total failure. and we will till why former giants slugger barry bonds will giants slugger barry bonds will be back in f [ male announcer ] with citibank it's easy for jay to deposit checks from anyw

on my way in i was grabbed, frisked and groped.aughter ] then i was like, "all right, kathie lee, enough. [ laughter ] i have to get to work. i got things to do." [ cheers and applause ] she's an animal. actually michelle obama is actually here tonight to talk about her fitness initiative, "let's move." meanwhile chris christie will be on next week to talk about his initiative, "let's sit." [ laughter ] [ applause ] equally, got a point to make equally as well. hey guys, get this. a 104-year-old woman is complaining that she can't put her real age on facebook, because the birthdates only go back as far as 1910. [ light laughter ] awws facebook said that it will solve the problem by either adding the dates or just waiting it out. [ laughter ] [ audience aws ] that's -- the woman also complained about the new facebook layout. she was like, "this used to all be farmville." [ laughter ] and finally police in california are investigating a suspicious 911 call that was made from the playboy mansion yesterday. but when they got there, hug

talk about a lot of people across the country and other may ares about the mayors about the stop and friskgram and was admonishd and advised there could be a better direction in the same effort of reducing effort -- violence in our city. >> >> you often heard me even in the reflection of the great success that our city is feeling on the eve of having a major sports team win the world series or now a football team that has become very successful and certainly a basketball team that desires to come here and create jobs and make strong commitments to our communities, even in the face of all these technology companies that are coming here and helping us uplift our economy, even within that success, you hear me talking about the people who aren't getting those jobs, the people who are making decisions everyday in our streets, in our community, and i will not be mincing words -- it is in the bay view. in in the visitation valley. it is in the mission where their dispute resolution is at the end of a gun and this is the way they're talking. this is the way they're dealing with each other and then

. >> for any city to say that they will not frisk, i'm sorry, they don't know what the heck they areking about. >> reaction to stopping the safe plans to get the oakland crime under control. >> what he is doing elsewhere may have worked. it does not mean it's going to work here. >> reporter: here at the speaker program at the university, bill was nowhere to be seen. and instead the man who hired him, the consultant has stepped on in. >> when he comes in, he is going to be focusing on improvements here to strengthen their reaction to the crime including the performance management, including investigative capabilities and personnel on the side. >> putting it together as a plan to make them safer. >> they told me that they were encouraged by what they heard. until now they did not have a vision. they did not sit down regularly either. and they are encouraged now because they do. in oakland, kpix 5. >>> reopening after the crash that sent two people hurling into the ravine this afternoon. they closed the highway for five hours as the crews, they worked to rescue the driver from the car.

second, we understand privacy, but we are living in different times now, and therefore, if you have to frisk me in a way that i've never been touched before at the airport, or you have to use my internet information in a way that i never thought, i'm uncomfortable, but what can i do?" and you say...? >> well, we can do a lot, but we need public policies in place to help us protect the shrinking expectation of privacy that we may have. now, the fourth amendment to the u.s. constitution provides us with a reasonable expectation of ivacy, but unless you know the capacity of the given technology, and they're being invented all the time, uh, unless you know who's gathering your information, your personal information, and what they're doing with it, it's hard to be able to say that you have a right of privacy. and privacy is not just a single value, it's a multiplicity of values, some which compete with one another. initially, i think it was brandeis who defined it as a right to be let alone. >> hinojosa: o i would love to have that right to be... (laughs) >> well, does anyone have the right to be

stop and frisk does not bring crime down.es my teeth hurt. but i can respect you. and we can talk about this. >> i hate to make your teeth hurt on valentine's day. >> i know. but anyway, the point is, there are a lot of things we can do. a lot of things we can do. and a lot of debates we can have. we can debate stop and frisk and so many other things. but you know what? don't tell me that keeping guns out of felons' hands violates your second amendment right. it's not in the second amendment. in fact, assault weapons aren't in the second amendment. high-capacity magazines aren't in the second amendment. read heller from 2008 and stop following extremist survivalists in your party, and your country would be a lot better off. let's talk about the middle class. >> let's talk about the middle class. >> the middle class is hurting right now. >> the president talked a lot about the middle class. let's look at some numbers to show how bad it actually is for the middle class. first we'll take a look at median incomes. you mentioned t

word this morning forest whitaker was frisked inside a manhattan deli falsely accused of shoplifting.didn't turn up with anything and his publicist calling it- appropriate and upsetting esays he didn't file a complaint at the request of the work here feared for his job. >>> it 6:40 and we want to go back to the breaking news we have been following all morningp you are -- morning. you are looking live at tampa florida as firefighters are battling a massive fire at steel recycling plant. the fire broke out around 4:15 this morning. officials say there's a diesel and ammonia tanks that are a concern. and firefighters are foaming and spraying the area as we speak to try to keep the fire away from tanks and they wait for bull dazer heading to the scene do break up a burning pile of metal. follow us on twitter and facebook on abc2news.com because as soon as breaking news comes to us, we will send it to you a live rook from tampa where they are -- look from tampa where they are battling a fire. steel amown why and -- ammonia and a tearchg. >>> a -- tearchg. >>> student was -- tank. >>> a stu