threat fromgrowing nationstate. the u.s. government is a little bifurcated, a little schizophrenic on this issue. when you have a major attack, you have parts of the government are there to help and parts of the government who are punishing the victim. every time -- you can have a breach and you have agencies coming in saying, we will find company forine the doing something wrong. if you have a cargo ship that gets torpedoed by the russians, you did not have someone in the government saying, you should have hardened the ship against a missile. i am not saying companies do not have responsibility to be responsible about cyber security. when you are beginning to deal with nationstates, you are dealing with an adversary that has so much capability, so much power, the u.s. government is struggling to defend itself. it is unreasonable to simply say, if you get hit by an attack of that level of sophistication, we will punish you until you do better. we need to have more of a dialogue between the private sector and government to sa