mlb from fromitivitier says where we recall -- that's a good yes. one of the difficulties is we don't spend a tremendous tamt of time big of at you're -- we lfn put fire walls and things on our perimeter but rare -- in you're -- you'll able to. -- recall to get ought rights, rrmgs think about what you've got to do. think about the wolves in the hen house. if you've got wolves in the hen house and they look like hence, you've got to figure out what is a wolf going to do that a hen wouldn't do? got to look at behaviors and look at how the individual networks are acting and so we're not very far aloen long, i feel, and i fear it will take months and years and the other thing is we port of break down the -- that's not a. -- it's note about washington government aircraftsy. do xwrerorrier are are. i think the keep to this is doing the deep look and deep analysis. >> jamil jaffer joining us for this discussion. the kathy on the republican line, good morning. thank you and go ahead. >> thanks for take my camp my comment is kind of in two parts. the first i