protection of europe's external borders for instance by investing more in the european border agency frontex the hope is to deter people from attempting to enter europe at all see hope has paid lip service to this idea but after meeting with austria as chancellor on wednesday he called it a quote ideal scenario the implication is that since frontex isn't able to offer this ideal level of protection present national border checks should be reintroduced. and even within the c.d.u. itself there are critics who doubt in a european solution. of course we'd like a european solution that's always better numbers but we've been waiting for two and a half years we can explain to voters why we're not doing anything at our national borders. thus as desperate migrants continue to cross the mediterranean the debate about what to do with them has become a political hot potato for conservatives in germany. so as you can see the confidence building up pressure the rift between chancellor merkel and critics led by interior minister horst is getting wider now tracking the story for us is our chief political ed

stronger measures are needed to tighten europe's external borders and to strengthen the coast guard frontex a new government in italy says it will no longer be europe's refugee camp and is turning away boats carrying exhausted refugees is the e.u. throwing its longstanding humanitarian principles overboard. migrant crisis time for fortress europe that's our topic here on quadriga here are our guests monica go around she is the director of the german section of the international organization for migration in berlin and she says arrivals are drastically lower across the mediterranean yet the sense of panic and crisis is at an all time high now is the time to go beyond a crisis footing and forge a long term humane policy with migrants recognizes people not numbers. and it's a pleasure to welcome reg. to the program she is a. freelance journalist from lebanon and she says the crisis europe is facing now is partly a fusil of it's acted to act early on what was happening in syria during the early days of the revolution. and also great to have with us trust him he's co-founder and director of the

austria's chancellor on wednesday he called it a quote ideal scenario the implication is that since frontex isn't able to offer this ideal level of protection at present national border checks should be introduced. and even within the c.d.u. itself there are critics who doubt in the european solution. of course we'd like a european solution that's always better but we've been waiting for two and a half years we can explain to voters why we're not doing anything at our national borders. thus as desperate migrants continue to cross the mediterranean the debate about what to do with them has become a political hot potato for conservatives in germany. and. she's political editor joins me from our parliamentary studious for more on this story i'm michelle how much of a showdown is this within the conservative bloc and does it threaten. well it certainly threatens angela merkel's leadership it is the strongest challenge that we have seen so far certainly from within her own c.d.u. c.s.u. party and if you're talking about quite right now at this moment literally the jury is out on how big a challe

external border force in fact both of them one way or another eventually want to see frontex completely responsible for the asylum process throughout the whole of the european union they also are in agreement when it comes to reform of the european commission now both emmanuel mccrone and angela merkel want to see less commissioners who have less power they do differ though over the well how many commissioners should be cut and also what changes should be made to how commission is end up in the job but now we get to the big disagreements the main one is going to be over defense now while both the french and german leaders say that they do support a european defense force and sometimes it's been called an e.u. army angela merkel will she prefers the more diplomatic route the german chancellor saying that the e.u. should have a seat at the u.n. security council she also backs the founding of a european security council as well that would have a rotating membership there it's really going down the diplomatic route with how she sees the e.u. taking up a position on the world stage very diff

says donald borders frontex has to be strengthened for the e.u. dealing with migration illegal immigration and people trafficking is going to be a major job. john mccain has more from berlin it's been a day of meetings and negotiation for angela merkel as she tries to find a way out of a situation that has her historical allies the christian social union from bavaria have created the federal interior minister horst zero for wants to bring into a plan a master plan as he calls it which would see the rules regarding immigration revert to what they were in the summer of twenty fifteen before angela merkel decided to open up the borders she does not want to do that right now instead what she's exceeded to is a plan whereby people who come here claiming asylum but who have some sort of travel ban imposed on them from another state will not be allowed in she's also been meeting today with the italian prime minister just separate continent and the important thing there is that angle americal says it's bilateral deals with other member states that might b

best one and that means strengthening europe's external border beefing up the external border agency frontex but also having a better system for distributing migrants who do come to europe around the various e.u. countries but there are going to be tough talks here i think today because of course the french are also. clyde to take a tough line they've got a bilateral agreement for instance with italy anglo-american now talking about getting bilateral agreements with specific countries to take back migrants that can't come to germany france is already doing that sending back thousands of migrants to italy this year they haven't been all that welcoming in general to migrants and have given those that have come to france a pretty tough time so that's much more a sort of zero for bavarian style approach than what merkel is looking for and she of course talks about solidarity and harmonizing asylum rules across the union so there's a lot of talking to do a lot of talking to do so i mean just briefly if you can what about what the rest of the e.u. what's going to be the most difficult part of gett

about beefing up europe's external borders with more money and funds and more effective next for frontex the european border agency working more for instance with african countries to promote development to help them stem the causes of migration and so on and talking also about you know introducing these common asylum rules across the e.u. where all these phrases frankly we've heard them before and there wasn't really any indication today of how france and germany are going to go and persuade other countries to find a common solution and certainly not within the next couple of weeks which of course is when angela merkel facing a crisis in but in berlin needs some results especially on the point of a slow in brussels did you hear anything in today's speeches from the president on the chancellor anything there that they can sell to the e.u. . no particularly in those speeches with regard to the refugee crisis because there simon said all of these good words let's protect our borders better and so on and so forth as we've heard in the times before but if you look at the paris papers for thi

summit takes place concern particularly border controls the reinforcement of the frontex troop is something that is on the table and that they want to agree on that means a lot more personnel a lot more money and probably larger and larger legal possibilities for the european border forest that is supposed to then become a real border force like nations have it so that is the biggest step it seems and then of course some other things are going to america last i mentioned that she understands that the countries are first entry need to be need to have burden taken off their shoulders but how that is going to function we don't know yet and something else that has been talked about and that was lauded by some people who accident here by some prime ministers and chancellors boys that those that are trying to leave the libyan coast are supposed to be pushed back to libya and forced to be forced to stay in libya so that is something about the president not trying for instant mention whether that is possible legally and physically and factually under international law is another question. but what

s out of border but it's important not only to strengthen frontex is personal but also extend its mandate to actively fight against traffickers and work together with northern e.u. countries the leaders are united on strengthening libya's coast guard so that migrants can no longer travel to europe by sea and hardliners want to create more reception centers like this one in libya far from the borders some leaders did however voice concerns. have on the. we have our values. and every time we betray them we do damage european values human rights respect for other member states and solidarity keep us together if it's. italian prime minister giuseppe conti once an overhaul of the so-called dublin agreement under which asylum seekers must be processed in the country they arrive italy says that will ensure a more equal distribution across the e.u. and open the door for bilateral agreements on the repatriation of migrants and that's exactly what angle of merkel once she does not want to send refugees back to another evil member state without that country's agreement after the talks merkel was opt

frontex, the eu's border agency says that 43,000 individuals have entered from outside of europe, january, 2018, that is about half, half the figure from 2017, and yet i come back to this point that the fear of immigration is rising and the un refugee chief says that is precisely because european politicians are indulging in what he calls "despicable scaremongering". and i think it would include your government in that. well, we don't consider ourselves as people who wa nt to consider ourselves as people who want to create panic, but who want, simply, to bear in mind that we are speaking of an increase, for instance, it is about plus a 140%, when we compared to last you's figures. when you speak about bosnia—herzegovina, we speak of a multiplication of hundreds of presents, so we shouldn't simply look at the incoming figures on a day to day basis, but of what we are a member was the case in spring 2015, the then minister of the interior of austria warned against the rising migration and her warnings were not taken serious and then things became more serious by then things became more seri

things really need to make sure that the external border is well protected so talking about this frontex border agency having that beefed up having it have real powers and be really effective possibly even doing the process of migrants wanting to come to europe doing the processing is in the states like north africa outside the european union where they can get some processing you have their asylum claims looked at and the other thing is this question of how migrants are going to be distributed within the european union how can you get a country like a stone miles away from any external borders you know to take people in that is the difficult persuading game that she's going to very briefly i mean here we talk about a more compassionate more humane migrant policy across europe at the e.u. can't even reach a deal. i mean if she can't reach a deal now in the in the next two weeks then i think the only think that's really left is for her to try to forge an alliance between different like minded states and try to solve that question of both border protection and distribution because otherwis

your ex there in a way borders with the ex expanding the role that the border protection company frontex place and the special zone in africa will be strengthened as well in order to. deport refugees in safe areas. and of course we've also looked at the whole question of border control is because of public and turning away people at the border. common instruments we agreed entirely with the fact that it's turning away as rights asylum seekers at the border must take place with the ticket when these are people who have a ban on retraining or germany or who are not allowed to mention be to be on german soil but also those who are already registered in another huge countries who or who are asylum seekers and i was actually registered anyway out zucchini so this is not just a legal organ.

asylum seekers have been going down with the turkey deal and other measures than frontex in the mediterranean working with the libyan coast guard the refugees are actually pushed back behind the mediterranean so she has created. time to discuss and find a strategy with the european partners it's going to take time and now she's in a very bad position because now she has to find a solution within two weeks and i like the idea of them playing good cop bad cop but i think it's rather hurting her position to discuss and negotiate with the european partners which are very difficult as we know you don't buy this summer when i think you know if she goes if goes to some european partners she doesn't have to go to the mall because you know the visit grad states basically part of the equation they don't taking into fiji's anyway they also don't have any outside borders of yes to basically deal with austria really france belgium and so on and and just. i lie and i lie and in my conte she has allies in belgium and holland and she can say to the italians look i've got this. fiery dragon breathing down my

borders how to make bilateral rule a return agreements with third countries how to strengthen the frontex for stores the border patrol's maybe extra personnel being sent there there you will have to see greenman anything that belongs there regarding the subject of relocation no disagreement expected. and gary what do you make then of the reports that italy has basically said that it's going to block all business all other issues until an agreement is reached on a migration plan that helps italy what are you hearing about that well that was yeah that was a moment when everybody was holding in their breath here for for a moment when the basically the press the council's press conference was cancelled due to it's really not agreeing to the council conclusions nominee there's a short press conference on other subjects and then the migration debate so the biggest issue tonight that it's not now taking place tomorrow but then the spokesperson of the council said leaders still have all night to agree on that subject and finally to come to conclusions now there was another diplomat who told me we

things really need to make sure that the external border is well protected so talking about this frontex border. agency having that beefed up having it have real powers and be really effective possibly even doing the process of migrants wanting to come to europe doing the processing is in the states like north africa outside the european union where they can get some processing have their asylum claims looked at and the other thing is this question of how migrants are going to be distributed within the european union how can you get a country like a stone but miles away from any external borders you know to take people in that is the difficult persuading game that she's going to enjoy very briefly i mean here we talk about him a more compassionate more humane migrant policy across europe at the e.u. can't even reach a deal. i mean if she can't reach a deal now in the in the next two weeks then i think the only think that's really left is for her to try to forge an alliance between different like minded states and try to solve that question of both border protection and distribution becau

europe what incentives could they be logistic support to boost a beefing up of the capacities of frontex the international border for the european border force or money i don't know the interior minister here in germany horse a hope he's threatening to take unilateral action on germany's borders turning some asylum seekers back if the chancellor doesn't come up with some sort of european solution does he really have the means to do that well it's certainly what voters want they've indicated in opinion polls they've said that they want to break with angle america's policy they want to tougher approach of the borders they want to see not just symbolically but in real terms people being sent away from germany's borders and there are two categories of people that applies to there are those that apply registered already in another e.u. states in their fingerprints will now be registered so they can be identified and then they're all the undocumented and they can be identified because they're undocumented they don't have documents and both of these categories of the both of these classes of pe

that you know that that is controlled by a procedure that everyone can understand so there's this frontex border agency that needs more personnel probably needs more cash it may involve agreeing with for instance north african countries that they can do more to process people as they pass through their countries and it means harmonize ation of asylum procedures across the different e.u. member states which are quite different at the moment where they differ what is worth pointing out that france already has some of those things that horst say hope for this troublesome c.s.u. leader in bavaria is asking for according to italy at least france is already being turning back migrants at its border ten thousand of them this year so far that's exactly the outcome that angela merkel says she doesn't want so we'll have to see when the detail comes out if it does ahead of that e.u. summit next week whether there is a clarity on this question of national borders purses the e.u. border as a whole or at our political correspondent simon young for us outside of berlin where. that to meet in just a few

talking about camps and often africa about shutting down the borders about increased spending for frontex so it's exactly these aspects of the populace were running the election campaigns on and of course at the very end minister of interior is now trying to prove to his home constituencies in prior to the elections in october so we can deliver but the question of course is are they really the winners or they're just victims of the diskos they didn't start and then what about the mood politically here in berlin today following on from this late night deal seemed that it was done in brussels what how would you assess the mood here in berlin politically today i think there's a big east of course because for for some. days two days actually people have been really really taking this into account that there could be a split. and then end of the government and then we would face new elections and that was so dominating and i think it's also saw so. frustrating for everybody just to imagine we could get back into a situation which nobody wanted to see coming back very soon but i think is also k

system of distributing migrants who arrive and of course also to beef up europe's external borders the frontex border agency which essentially needs funds it needs personnel it needs better structures to be more effective in keeping people back who don't really have a good reason to come into the european union it also means for instance more agreements with north african countries the germans have done a lot in libya but there are there's more that can be done to help those countries deal with the flow of migrants and possibly to process some of the asylum claims there so all of that they could start to agree and change the dynamic around this debate to show a bit more cooperation of course there really isn't a lot of cooperation from countries like hungry for instance which are very much opposed to these common rules and i did have you simon young are covering the meeting between angela merkel and a man woman conference today thank you simon it's not just in europe but in many places around the world a record number of people are on the move a new report by the un refugee agency says war and

frontex has to be strengthened for the e.u. dealing with migration illegal immigration and people trafficking is going to be a major job turkish forces have entered the outskirts of the syrian city of manby just part of an agreement with the us earlier this month turkish and u.s. military officials agreed to the withdrawal of the kurdish y p g from the city has been under control since driving us all out in twenty sixteen with the help of u.s.s. support fighters loyal to warlord general haile for have to have carried out strikes in libya's so-called oil present the strikes targeted fighters from annoyance led by the petroleum facilities guard militia which has been trying to retake control of oil terminals in the east of the country since thursday. stay with us next up fits the stream i'll have more news for you after that thanks for watching for. our markets have a d.m. and you're in the stream now live on you tube today can native americans change u.s. politics as an unprecedented number of indigenous politicians run for offi

outside borders need to be more protective that more personnel leads to get into the border agency frontex several measures that make sure that no migrant even set foot on european soil but what is really crucial is that it is possible that the european partners agree on that migrants should not migrate within the european union anymore and the really crucial point that's. agreements for instance between germany and italy that it is allowed to send back the migrants and what they're saying right now is they think it's possible that to reach that agreement tomorrow this is not just. a german store i mean in europe is as polarizing is divided over. migration as the german coalition appears to be what will it mean for. for merrill if she does not get the support that she needs at this level and what's it going to mean for the european union what decisive for we would kind of spin in the end she will have on how she's able to sell the agreement that they're going to reach whatever it looks like in the end what how how good she will be in selling the supreme and first of all to the germans the

says donal borders frontex has to be strengthened through the e.u. dealing with migration illegal immigration and people trafficking is going to be a major job. saudi led coalition aircraft bombarding hoofy fighters dug in around the airport of yemen's main port of her data. is demanding the who the rebels withdraw unconditionally from the strategic port area and key aid lifelines to save civilian lives the un says more than twenty six thousand people have fled the fighting. fighters loyal to warlord general holly for have to have carried out air strikes in libya's so-called oil crescent strikes targeted fighters from an alliance led why they petroleum facilities guard militia which launched attacks on the all terminals on thursday there it has been under have to control since twenty sixteen of colombia's president elect even duke a has called for unity after winning a divisive runoff against the far left candidate because to have a petro who cares promise to rewrite the historic peace to you which the government signed with fart rebels in twenty six

ourselves frontex not yet set up to the level it needs to be. a proper european border about at least that has more so it's a bit of the asylum figures in germany have gone down we are not yet content with the level of say that i very emphatically but by the end of may they were less this year than last year and to make this perfectly clear we do not want to take time to fifteen and there are all manner of measures that we've agreed in the coalition agreement and we've also got off the theme of the orientation level of how many refugees we want to hand in order to integrate properly and the we've regulated family regulus relations measures allowing families to unite refugees case in germany we've made agreements on that and we also said to increase efficiency because nationally they must go national measures in place that we wanted to set up perception decision and deportations. anderson i would like to ask everyone to support what has information just as quickly as possible because this is something we agreed and go shaded within the coalition

says donald borders frontex has to be strengthened for the e.u.dealing with migration illegal immigration and people trafficking is going to be a major job of turkish forces have entered the outskirts of the syrian city of man binge as part of an agreement with the us earlier this month turkish and u.s. military officials agreed to the withdrawal of the kurdish y p g from the city when beach has been under control since driving us all out in twenty sixteen with the help of u.s.s. support fighters loyal to the warlord general hurley for have to have carried out air strikes in libya's so-called oil crescent the strikes targeted fighters from an alliance led by the petroleum facilities guard which launched an operation to retake the eastern or terminals on thursday the war not trevor continues next hour of news are for you straight after that folks watching the scene of it. thanks. we. thank. at fourteen hundred hours on oct sixth nine hundred seventy three young kid poor siren sounded across israel. it was war again. a show bit of trouble publishing

we did hear a little bit about maybe strengthening frontex, putting more officers on the external bordere eu border but on the european mainland where migrants could be effectively held and processed. now, mrs merkel was asked about this during a press conference this evening. she didn't rule out the idea, which may surprise some. she said there may be a place for such a facility if it is to house people who have no chance of being granted asylum in europe. an interesting one for mrs merkel, that, and rather at odds with perhaps what people might expect to be at her other more liberal view view on this subject, but perhaps that is just a reflection of the pressure she is under. yeah, and, jenny, what does this mean for her domestically? how important is that she can come with some kind of plans from these meetings with macron, with the eu in order to save her own political career? well, mrs merkel will be in a corner regardless of what happens. if she comes back with something from the eu summit then her interior minister, the leader of her bavarian sister party who has been pressurising

european union strengthening the outer borders of the european union with the help of the agency frontex and those are also the points that micro mentioned here at the moment now as for the convergence of the euro zone and also what to do with public debt that's a completely different story because the italian government is very in that it not the government but the state is actually only second to to greece here and it's a much larger economy so huge risk there and the italian government has announced that they want to basically ignore that and spend more that is something that eminem and i call cannot be on board with right might still fund impasse thank you very much for that live update on the meeting between amman and mccraw of france and just that because they're off italy getting on to turkey where incumbent president richard jhana may be the key a frontrunner in elections but that's not stopping opposition candidates from running against him even if they're in jail the pool could issue a cheapie presidential candidate selah hot then demitasse was detained in november two thousand