what their relationship was to vladimir putin, what their relationship was or continued to be with the fsb the svr and the gru. john, if you take a step back and think about the context of this meeting, it's during june of a presidential election. how did they secure a meeting with a presidential campaign. they said it was about russian adoptions. no one buys that the meeting was about adoptions or that the campaign would be willing to work with them. you're going to be comparing stories to look for inconsistencies. what was the prologue before this meeting and the epilogue after? what set up the meeting and what was the follow-up because it's hard to imagine this was just a one off. >> richard burr says they're sequencing the timing of the interviews with everyone else before they get to donald trump jr. help us understand what that means. >> that's a classic bottom-up investigation. i wish we were doing that in the house investigation. you want to start with the outside, they call them satellite witnesses, and get closer and closer to the center, so that way when you confront the individ

now it's the fsb and the military side gru. the nsa didn't run kaspersky. i'm shocked we had so many government agencies running this. it makes me wonder how much information the russians have on us now. >> jon: the department of homeland security has ordered all u.s. agencies to get rid of kaspersky software. giving them 90 days to do it. slow motion fix. >> it would be better to operate without it than operate with it for right now. we're in less danger from it. >> jon: morgan wright. good to talk to you. >> melissa: president trump preparing to use the power of the pen to make sweeping changes to the healthcare system. our panel is up next to discuss what this move means for the future of obamacare. plus deadly wildfires are ravaging california prompting mass evacuations from communities in wine country and mother nature is not helping out. >> this is absolutely devastating. it is heartbreaking. it is crushing. for mom, the nation's largest senior living referral service. for the past five years, i've spoken with hundreds of families and visited senior c

. >> narrator: before long, yeltsin promoted him to lead the kgb's successor, the fsb. >> he undertakesable rise, basically having nothing to do with the center of power in moscow, to running its most important security agency, working in the kremlin. >> narrator: putin had convinced yeltsin that he shared the president's democratic goals. >> he's a professional liar. to lie is what he was taught in the intelligence school. he was pretending that he was going to pursue the same development of russia as yeltsin did. but that's all is just one big lie. >> another major shakeup in the kremlin-- yeltsin fires his entire cabinet again. who's in charge? (man speaking russian) >> narrator: putin rose to become yeltsin's prime minister, the second-most powerful man in russia. >> a new prime minister, vladimir putin, a man of little political experience but a... >> the biggest and the initial reaction when people heard his name being announced as acting prime minister on the ninth of august 1999, by president yeltsin, the first reaction was, "who is that?" most people had never heard of this guy

are we talking about the fsb? the military? putin? his blesesing to this -- blessing to this? can we get more specificity? there ist know anything i am allowed to say that would be constructive on this. [laughter] of stateink the organ security is doing things putin found out about after-the-fact, you would be in error. his command of the military is good. doesn't matter -- does it matter whether it was any of these institutes affiliated with the government? i am not sure it does. in america, we tend to clearly differentiate between the government and other nongovernmental things like organized crime. how people would say they are not as separate as they should be. they are. not so much in russia. to what degree has organized crime in russia had a hand in this? what is that relationship? that is an interesting question. not be the question you asked, but it is one i am answering. >> maybe yes. maybe no. when you are looking at russia's cyber operations, you were looking at an officer conducting -- who are they working for? mother russia. their boss is going to get a cut of som

>> could be a staff officer of the russian intelligence service, the svr or fsb. but more likely it was not a staff officer. it was probably somebody they recruited to spot and assess individuals in washington associated with the trump campaign. and it's possible this professor had this as part of their -- his recurring responsibilities. what he got paid for by the russians to do. to come back to the point. at that breakfast meeting he's offered e-mails, the dirt on hillary clinton. at some point, those very same e-mails, that same dirt was offered again. not just to low or midlevel trump officials but in fact, to the highest echelons of the campaign at the june 2016 meeting to don junior, jared kushner and paul manafort himself. the russians finally got what they wanted which was a senior level meet with the triumump campaign and offered to interfere in the election. >> matt, we're talking about the meeting in trump tower, right. >> yes. >> with natalia viselitskaya. did i get that right? >> nailed it. >> i'm going to speak russian at the end of this. papadopoulo

are we talking about the fsb? the military? putin? steering this from the kremlin? giving his blessing to this? vaguely aware of what's going on? can we get more specificity? >> i don't know there is anything i am allowed to say that would be constructive on this. [laughter] if you think the organ of state security is doing things putin found out about after-the-fact, you would be in error. his command over those organs is good. does it matter whether it was any of these institutes affiliated with the government? i am not sure it does. there is an interesting complexion to your question. in america, we tend to clearly differentiate between the government and other nongovernmental things like organized crime. some people would say they are not as separate as they should be. they are. not so much in russia. to what degree has organized crime in russia had a hand in this? as a proxy. what is that relationship? that is an interesting question. this may not be the question you asked, but it is one i am answering. >> maybe yes. maybe no. when you are looking at russia's c

are we talking about -- when we're talking about this episode, are we talking about the fsb, the military, the doctrine, putin steering this from the kremlin or giving his blessing to it vaguely what's going on? i was just wondering if we could get a little more specificity. >> boy, i don't know if there's anything i'm allowed to say that would be constructive on that. i would just say this. i think if you have an idea of an organized state security like the russians are doing things putin found out about after the fact, you would probably be in error. i don't think it's -- i think his command grip as we say in the military, over those organs is good. and so if you see them behaving -- to some degree the question i would put back to you is does it matter? does it matter if it was gru, fsvr or the prejudice protection group or any of these institutes that are affiliated with the government. i'm not sure that it does matter. there is an interesting complexion to your question. our intelligence service is an organized crime. although some people would say they're not as separate as they shou

especially thanks to the fsb there's considerable greater flexibility afforded to human caring agencies and are using it quite well and i plotted usaid. yes i applaud usaid. they labor extremely well against the constraints imposed by present statutes but those are binding constraint. they really so delivered in the cost money. groups are being very efficient and creative but we could do better. >> mr. melito. >> we have consistently called on aig to make sure they had the underling market conditions, choose the right weddell before. cash is often the right option for something because of droughts and other conflicts it's bringing commodities. the commodities can be grown u.s. or locally regionally. thank you so know the underling problems. if you provide cash and situation with a shortage of food you could take inflation which in case you drive more people and hunger. show less text 01:19:23 unidentified speaker the last question i will ask with 30 seconds left is are we doing enough to usaid? our ngo committee to promote the growth of the agricultural sector of economies that are hard

were they potentially exposed to russian intelligence service, fsb scrutiny?tainly would have caused some concern as well because if we look at the russian cyber intrusion in our social networking and media sites, they were seeking to spread disinformation and i don't think it is beyond the realm of possibility they saw this as a channel to spread disinformation as well. eric: so i mean, talk about the disinformation, spy versus spy. you have experience in this. they would put something out there that is not true hoping that it would go viral and infect the body politic. >> absolutely. one thing i learned from all the years i served in moscow and worked on russia target, they're constantly searching for channels to spread disinformation to achieve their covert aims. and, this potentially could have been another one of those channels for them to try to exploit. eric: should we take this report seriously? >> i think that's a question yet to be answered. i wouldn't take any of that dossier to be serious or credible yet, until it is proven to be so. and at this po

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we would welcome the government report today, the fsb had their own last month.al health in the workplace. when you talk to other members of the federation what is the feeling about how they are dealing with this issue at the moment, do they feel much better and further one than the bigger corporations? they do, people are more flexible, even in our own office we have a winning group that ru ns office we have a winning group that runs a couple of times a week and we think it is a great use of time, if they want to take in the day and do that, because it is about their mental health, having conversations, walking meetings. people getting more physically active. it helps support mental health. thank you very much. i'm going to take you to space because on the international space station the pope is going to be talking, or is indeed talking now, to members of the international space station. there he is at the vatican. his audience is literally out of this world. he's giving an address to staff, arranged by the european space agency with the help of nasa. 0nly europ

. -- use these sources in the fsb is one of the best those expected -- the russian internal service told sydney are very effective at running intelligence and counterintelligence operations. its quite like if they would've discovered the intelligence collection was going on. remember they hacked into the national committee server or they might obtain information from the namespace was going on. >> who ultimately was benefiting from this that they're getting information about dedicated a trump? >> presumably they would've tracked the acquisition all the way back from the sources to mr. see how and potentially to the candidates. potentially they could have known and then use this channel is they've used or social networking which is like an old russian and soviet attack that to spread disinformation to achieve their political aims. >> is his ultimate more about interfering in the integrity of our process or about particularly candidates? >> the jury is out on now. for sure it is designed to interfere in the integrity of the democratic institutions, but let's see where the facts lead us. th