. >> and i will second that and i would like to add 1060.5 fthree, the business lacks adequate safe guards to permit noise that will interfere with the neighboring property and i think that you have already proven to us that you can't control it. and you have been operating without a permit. >> all right, is there any discussion about this? >> any comments to... >> i think that... >> commissioner lee. >> i think that it is very clear that the applicant was... and i mean, that not very transparent in many ways, i think as you obviously you buy a business and you either know that you have to have a permit there or you don't. and i think that some people assume that because you buy a business that has an entertainment permit, you can just assume that. but, everybody has to reapply, and new conditions can happen, based on the history of the venue previous to taking over. >> so, i think that i have to agree with the commissioners at this point is that and you have every right to appeal it, but, i have to stay with them. >> and i usually don't deny a permit, and i am in the industry, but in this