_ are we standing down this fu'itsu man? . . are we standing down this fu'itsu man?d two conversations. i don't know whether you want to - man? yes, i had two conversations. i| don't know whether you want to cover that now or later.— that now or later. neither of these conversations _ that now or later. neither of these conversations are _ that now or later. neither of these conversations are documented, i conversations are documented, correct? — conversations are documented, correct? i— conversations are documented, correct? ~ , . , correct? i think they are in my statement. — correct? i think they are in my statement, actually. - correct? i think they are in my statement, actually. there - correct? i think they are in my statement, actually. there is| correct? i think they are in my l statement, actually. there is no further documentation. so the first i learnt was i bumped into lesley sule in the corridor, she was looking particularly grumpy. she said, "ijust found looking particularly grumpy. she said, "i just found out... looking particularly grumpy. she said, "

remote access by fu'itsu is possible, isn't mi remote access by fu'itsu is possible, isn't it?ble, isn't it? reading that i today with everything we know, yes, absolutely. — today with everything we know, yes, absolutely, i'm not sure at the time that i_ absolutely, i'm not sure at the time that i would — absolutely, i'm not sure at the time that i would have understood that. at the _ that i would have understood that. at the very — that i would have understood that. at the very least, you accept that you read — at the very least, you accept that you read this ernst & young letter. you were _ you read this ernst & young letter. you were aware that unauthorised or erroneous— you were aware that unauthorised or erroneous transactions could be processed — erroneous transactions could be processed on horizon that were not carried _ processed on horizon that were not carried out— processed on horizon that were not carried out or approved by the sub—postmaster. i don't want to challenge — sub—postmaster. i don't want to challenge because i don't want to be seen to— challenge because

— the contract with fu'itsu? correct? correct. paragraph i the contract with fujitsu? correct? 33, when computer weekly _ correct. paragraph 114 page 33, when computer weekly published _ correct. paragraph 114 page 33, when computer weekly published this i computer weekly published this article — computer weekly published this article in — computer weekly published this article in may 2009, you were told by mike _ article in may 2009, you were told by mike young, the then operations director, _ by mike young, the then operations director, that the magazine did not know— director, that the magazine did not know what — director, that the magazine did not know what it was talking about in relation _ know what it was talking about in relation to — know what it was talking about in relation to horizon and assure you that there — relation to horizon and assure you that there was nothing wrong with the horizon system, correct? yes. paragraph— the horizon system, correct? yes. paragraph 129 on page 50. you did not know— paragraph 129 on page 50. you did not know at— paragraph 129 on pa

it says fu'itsu services at the to - thank you.er at that inquiry this morning. she was emotional at times giving her evidence. she talks about the work, she says i worked as hard as i could to do the best for the post office in the uk. breaking down in tears because it was some pretty tough questioning about what she knew and whether the post office was responsible for covering up the evidence that it had. there were faults with that horizon it system. once again, some very tough questions for paula vennells to answer and in some cases she didn�*t have all the answers. answer and in some cases she didn't have all the answers.— have all the answers. absolutely, it is worth going _ have all the answers. absolutely, it is worth going through _ have all the answers. absolutely, it is worth going through some - have all the answers. absolutely, it is worth going through some of - have all the answers. absolutely, it i is worth going through some of those moments, as you said it was tough questioning, it was cutting at times. we are int