discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest sarah issue in knoxville she is a visiting scholar at fudan university and in beijing we cross the jungle he is a professor at the university of international business and economics across up rules in effect that means you can jump in he time you want and i always appreciate it ok let's go to sara and knoxville. what role is china playing in the american election because i said in my introduction both biden and trump want they like to show these apps ok that ad versus ad very and i china obviously but i don't see it really making much of an impact on the electorate because there are so many other issues there's the pandemic there is an economic turndown and all the sudden it's all china's fault somehow believe me i understand what that feels like living in russia there. i think that you know definitely something that both candidates will if they have asked you interest because china has been such a big part of president trump's whole you know policy agenda and so i think that's something that is really important on the list some experts think that it's y