everyone was, fufb effusive. bob, dylan, played to fall aa sleep when the last note faded out.hey said, why are they doing this to you? i don't know, i said, i think i'm jackie robinson. [ laughter ] >> so -- with that collection of people around you that -- the work wasn't being given the respect in that moment perhaps that it should have been given. >> well, the -- john lennon's comment, too. now, that's a working class perspective. >> right. >> he's going, oh, it's too sophisticated too -- you know like -- you know that's a class problem, right. that's the way i thought -- >> sure. >> but i guess -- i had kind of a harvardd way to go. there weren't that many women in the business. i'm not whining -- >> sure. >> even trying to lead people because i had very, very distinctive ideas about how the bottom in -- i laid my part down and had a really good time. i put the bass and drums on afterwards right? and i couldn't get anybody until -- to play it. and russ kunkel who played with the "singer/songwriter" camp, they couldn't play it. as john says in here, i found the quote. becau