hua, arthur, joey jackson and mark fuhrman join us again. dr.ua, this animal sets his house on fire after he slits the throat of his family. how does the fire effect the forensics on the bodies? >> it won't effect in terms of determining the cause of death or the manner of death in this case. probably will interfere a little bit evidence collection surrounding the body. >> judge jeanine: and when you say probably a little bit in terms of what? >> collecting all the evidence surrounding the body like the microscopic evidence collection. >> judge jeanine: is there some way if you can tell if they died of a or after the fire? >> it is easy. doing the autopsy, look at airways. in you are still alive you inhale the smoke into the airway and the young will turn black. secondly the carbon monoxide. if reality it is almost like cooking abody. if the fire was quick and strong you burn the an and tier layer. >> so the fire almost preserves the internal organ for forensic evaluation? >> yes, he. >> judge jeanine: mark, this guy has no criminal record. he i

death penalty after the supreme court had temporarily barred the death penalty in a case known as fuhrmanv. georgia. after that in the legislature he voted a number of times to expand the number, the conditions under which the death penalty could be imposed. so he was certainly an ardent supporter of the death penalty, but he'd never really focused on it. and he played this political game as, i think, people on both sides of the aisle had played it for a long time. he'd been secretary of state, the secretary of state's office was always sort of a cash cow for the party that held it. it had the potential of, basically, extorting campaign contributions, which it did. and, of course, this was considered a plum to hold this office, and george ryan played that game. and then suddenly with this anthony porter case it was just like this was something that struck him like a lightning bolt that, oh, my god, we're talking about killing people. i mean, i could play this political game forever, but i can't countenance killing people. and it was something that just moved him incredibly. and i spoke to