simpson trial is in chaos and today's free for all could decide the ultimate outcome. >> the fuhrmantrial blew up today. >> it becomes evident late in the trial that mark fuhrman has worked with a l.a. screenwriter and made tapes of what police life is like. >> the defense offered 41 examples of fuhrman using the word [ bleep ]. something he swore on the witness stand he has not done in the last ten years. >> the defense wants desperately to prove that fuhrman is capable of manufacturing evidence to bolster their claim that he planted the bloody glove found at o.j. simpson's estate. >> detective fuhrman will you resume the witness stand. >> was the testimony you gave at the preliminary hearing in this case completely truthful? >> i wish to assert my fifth amendment privilege. >> the defense tried, successfully, to turn this case into a referendum on mark fuhrman in particular and the lapd in general. >> no one would predicted it, the jury in the o.j. simpson trial has taken less than four hours to reach a verdict. >> mr. simpson, would you please stand and face the jury? >> most peop

one of them is jason fuhrman, economic adviser to president obama. we had a chance to speak to him about several of the issues confronting the nation and the current administration. raising the debt ceiling, that has to be done and agreeing with steve mnuchin it should be a clean bill to raise the debt ceiling and talking about an issue that's confronting everybody, wages are not rising as fast as you would like. especially the federal reserve. they're not pleased with the pace of wage growth given that we're in a tight labor market. here is what jason fuhrman had to say about it. >> the fed can't fully solve the problem. it means that we solve the problem with business tax reform, expand to trade and investments in infrastructure and scientific research. we need to do things that will get productivity moving faster, not think that just moving around interest rates is going to solve the problem that workers are facing in our economy. >> reporter: now one thing furman says would raise wages, there is no plan, just a grand outline, which furman says wo

he has served as fuhrman's chair as both the university and faculty of science department. and initiated the washington internship program which has sent over 1,000 fuhrman students to washington. dr. guth's recent work assesses the impact of religion on the electoral process and public policy in the clinton, bush and obama administrations. dr. guth holdings a bachelor of science from the universe of wisconsin and a ph.d. from harvard university. and then in our center left, we have dr. tom mach, who joins our forum tonight from cedarville university, where he is the assistant vice president for academics, a professor of history, and the director of cedarville's honors program. he teaches courses in united states history and world view integration. his research area is 19th century america, especially the political history of the american civil war in the gilded age. he was selected to attend the american history seminar on the gilded age, sponsored by the gilder layerman institute of american history and the counsel of independent college, hosted by stanford university. hi

this is something barack obama and his white house did a lot, jason fuhrman, they would talk about allhe jobs they had created over the course of his presidency. his presidency started in the deepest trough we've had in the economy since the 30s. now we have the same problem with donald trump, he looks at 209,000 was the last jobs report, that sounds like a very big number. but what you're actually looking at is rate of change, how many -- how does it compare to the pace when when you put into context population growth, a lot that goes into that number. what we're finding out is if the economy is basically ticking over, if we're adding the normal number of new workers. then you get a print of about 150,000 new jobs every month. and that varies by about 50,000 plus or minus. so if it's within that band, it doesn't mean anything. >> but, brendan, this turnaround that the president talks about, it is true, especially as it relates to the market, president trump and his promise to deregulate has super channeled things. but there is absolutely no turnaround. we were on a slow and steady ris