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contacted fujitsu and a peak was raised in 2013 and fujitsu diagnose _ peak was raised in 2013 and fujitsuranches is being affected. fujitsu held a conference with the post offices — held a conference with the post office's problem manager and the orphan _ office's problem manager and the orphan records were subsequently removed _ orphan records were subsequently removed by the fujitsu development team, _ removed by the fujitsu development team, an _ removed by the fujitsu development team, an extra set of checks were introduced — team, an extra set of checks were introduced in october 2013. so if a similar— introduced in october 2013. so if a similar problem surfaced in the future — similar problem surfaced in the future an— similar problem surfaced in the future an error message would be displayed — future an error message would be displayed to the postmaster telling them to— displayed to the postmaster telling them to contact the horizon service desi<~ _ them to contact the horizon service desi<~ we _ them to contact the horizon service desk. we are dealing with horizon online _ desk. w

up until now, fujitsu has — office and fujitsu.now, fujitsu has escaped _ office and fujitsu. up until now, fujitsu has escaped much - office and fujitsu. up until now, fujitsu has escaped much of - office and fujitsu. up until now, fujitsu has escaped much of the | fujitsu has escaped much of the scrutiny, given a statement in apologising for its role and says it will support the public inquiry that it is going to get a grilling from mps today. 50 it is going to get a grilling from mps today-— it is going to get a grilling from mps today. so far, fu'itsu, who built the system _ mps today. so far, fu'itsu, who built the system that h mps today. so far, fujitsu, who built the system that failed, - mps today. so far, fujitsu, who| built the system that failed, that led to innocent people going behind bars, have not said anything and we think it is time they broke their vow of silence and tell us what was known by who and when, whether they feel a moral obligation at least, to contribute to a compensation bill of hundreds of millions

when did you 'oin fujitsu?_ what wash fujitsu? in early 2010. what was our first fujitsu?nd job _ fujitsu? in early 2010. what was your first role and job title? - fujitsu? in early 2010. what was your first role and job title? i - fujitsu? in early 2010. what was | your first role and job title? i was your first role and “0b title? i was hired to raise — your first role and job title? i was hired to raise sales _ your first role and job title? i —" hired to raise sales leadership role and i was this sales leader for the private sector.— private sector. what did that 'ob involve? very �* private sector. what did that 'ob involve? very much i private sector. what did that 'ob involve? very much focused h private sector. what did that job involve? very much focused onl private sector. what did that job - involve? very much focused on new business, selling _ involve? very much focused on new business, selling two _ involve? very much focused on new business, selling two fujitsu's - business, selling two fujitsu's customers in the private sector, as was then. ~ :. :. . custome

the information was that a stock _ fujitsu. the information was that a stock unit — fujitsu.cal suspense. when the stock unit rolled _ go to local suspense. when the stock unit rolled over, the local suspense was cleared — unit rolled over, the local suspense was cleared and the game was not accounted — was cleared and the game was not accounted for. the value of the game was showing on the trading position as lying _ was showing on the trading position as lying on— was showing on the trading position as lying on the trading statement. the trading position line should always— the trading position line should always show zero. now, in the following — always show zero. now, in the following paragraph, 76—109, you set out the _ following paragraph, 76—109, you set out the history of this lock event which _ out the history of this lock event which had — out the history of this lock event which had that effect there. and how it was— which had that effect there. and how it was first _ which had that effect there. and how it was first identified by fujitsu in 2007— it was first iden

fujitsu has apologised...e involved, and their families. what do you think about fujitsu returning the money? - the government has suggested you return the money. - please understand, there is the ongoing public inquiry. i'm sorry, i cannot comment furthermore about these topics. there was also an apology from the head of fujitsu in europe for the company's role in the post office scandal. answering mps' questions in a select committee session, paul patterson said the company had fallen below its own standards of conduct and had a "moral obligation" to contribute to compensation for the victims. fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. we were involved from the very start, we did have bugs and errors in the system and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the sub—postmasters. for that we are truly sorry. the bbc�*s mariko oi is in the studio with me. i hesitate and it so long for fujitsu to give an apology? brute i hesitate and it so long for fujitsu

are you surprised that a fujitsu was. are you surprised that a company — fujitsu was., fujitsu, have not commented in light of what has happened in the past week or so, and from what you saw, do you think they should be in charge or able to bid for future public sector accounts?- charge or able to bid for future public sector accounts? well, bear in mind the _ public sector accounts? well, bear in mind the size _ public sector accounts? well, bear in mind the size of _ public sector accounts? well, bear in mind the size of horizon, i public sector accounts? well, bear in mind the size of horizon, at i public sector accounts? well, bear in mind the size of horizon, at a i in mind the size of horizon, at a time we were looking at a second site in 2012, we were told it was the largest nonmilitary it project in the whole of europe, and there is a limited number of organisations that can deliver that sort of functionality. fujitsu was truly one of them, maybe ibm was another. i'm not surprised that there was a limited amount of choice in terms of potential suppliers. i limi

fujitsu has apologised... has apologised... has apologised for the impact on the lives of the people involved, and theirfamilies. lives of the people involved, and their families.— their families. what do you think about fuiitsu _ their families. what do you think about fujitsu returning _ their families. what do you think about fujitsu returning the - their families. what do you think. about fujitsu returning the money? please _ about fujitsu returning the money? please understand, _ about fujitsu returning the money? please understand, there _ about fujitsu returning the money? please understand, there is- about fujitsu returning the money? please understand, there is the - please understand, there is the ongoing public inquiry. i'm sorry, i cannot comment furthermore about these topics. the cannot comment furthermore about these twice-— cannot comment furthermore about these mics-— these topics. the global boss of fu'itsu these topics. the global boss of fujitsu there. _ karl flinders is chief reporter at c

fujitsu has apologised.heir families _ postmasters' lives and their families. ~ ., ., families. what do you think about fujitsu _ families. what do you think about fujitsu giving - families. what do you think about fujitsu giving the - families. what do you think i about fujitsu giving the money back the government suggested you should return the money? yeah, please understand, there are ongoing and public inquiry. i'm sorry, _ are ongoing and public inquiry. i'm sorry, i_ are ongoing and public inquiry. i'm sorry, i cannot comment for more — i'm sorry, i cannot comment for more - _ i'm sorry, i cannot comment for more — about these topics. there — more — about these topics. there was_ more — about these topics. there was also an apology from the head of fujitsu in europe for the company's role in the post office scandal. answering mp questions in a select committee session, paul patterson said the company had fallen below its own standards of conduct and had a moral obligation to contribute to compensation

chap out to rubbish the fujitsu name.su employees and he said of the fujitsu manager who sent that e—mail, i hope he has as many sleepless nights as i have. i think it's about paul patterson is going to be saying today is what did fujitsu know about the problems with horizon, when did they know it, what were they telling the post office about it and perhaps also about behaviour of fujitsu employees. thank you very much indeed. i'm joined now by tom witherow — news and special projects reporter at the times. thank you very much for being with us. it does seem one of the big focus is now is on fujitsu and how much they knew and when? absolutely, we not a much they knew and when? absolutely, we got a hint — much they knew and when? absolutely, we got a hint earlier _ much they knew and when? absolutely, we got a hint earlier in _ much they knew and when? absolutely, we got a hint earlier in the _ much they knew and when? absolutely, we got a hint earlier in the week- we got a hint earlier in the week with paul patterson bein

some of the technical issue that is fujitsu software in japan technical issue that is fujitsu softwareample, its software caused an all day suspension at the tokyo stock exchange back in 2020, which its global president mr tokita had to make an apology for. and even in the uk, its reputation has been severely damaged. but even when the wrongful convictions were overturned, the company were still winning some of the biggest contracts from uk government, but also by private companies as wellment so i started asking around — why that is? why wouldn't the uk government cut fujitsu off? and the answer is that they were so engrained in the it infrastructure that they simply couldn't. now, ukraine's president has been meeting global leaders and trying to convince them to fund the country's reconstriction. 0ur economics editor spoke to him in davos, and sent this report. the long shadow of geopolitical crisis in the world economy. again, the main issue here at the world economic forum. the presence of ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky talking to the world's biggest wall street financiers,

its concerns having to spend money on fujitsu's assistance?— fujitsu's assistance?ts all was been commercial concerns - fujitsu's assistance? its all was - been commercial concerns because part of the contract was you have so many that when you are requesting the ar 0 data, there were so many sources that you would look at what data is required because sometimes you might get a blanket of five years' worth and you have to look at the consideration of that. if it is required for the case, the cost does not come into it. if it's needed, it should be applied for. lit not come into it. if it's needed, it should be applied for.— should be applied for. if we stroll u - , we should be applied for. if we stroll up. we then _ should be applied for. if we stroll up. we then see _ should be applied for. if we stroll up, we then see a _ should be applied for. if we stroll up, we then see a response. - should be applied for. if we stroll. up, we then see a response. andrew bolts says, "thank you for considering the position so promptly. i can no confirm the case has been put bac

up until now, fujitsu has — office and fujitsu.su. up until now, fujitsu has escaped much of - office and fujitsu. up until now, fujitsu has escaped much of the | fujitsu has escaped much of the scrutiny, given a statement in apologising for its role and says it will support the public inquiry that it is going to get a grilling from mps today. 50 it is going to get a grilling from mps today-— it is going to get a grilling from mps today. so far, fu'itsu, who built the system _ mps today. so far, fu'itsu, who built the system that h mps today. so far, fujitsu, who built the system that failed, - mps today. so far, fujitsu, whol built the system that failed, that led to innocent people going behind bars, have not said anything and

the system was made by fujitsu. the boss appeared before mps earlier.

a very significant day yesterday where we had from fujitsu and we are expecting more from fujitsu today we are. i think you are right, i think there has been relative silence over the last couple of weeks from fujitsu. as this scandal has developed over the last few weeks since the airing of the itv drama, where millions of people watched and became aware of the scandal that has been going on for years and years. this is something that happened between 1999—2015 and yet it has taken until now for action to be taken to stop the main headlines yesterday were not from here at the inquiry back from a committee of mps grilling the europe boss of fujitsu who made that apology for what he called an appalling miscarriage ofjustice. he also said for the first time that he felt there was a moral obligation of the company to pay towards the compensation of some of these people who were wrongly convicted, although there were no details of how much or how that would really work in practice. he also said that the post office had become aware early on, to use his phrase, about some of the errors and b

, fujitsu has_ you say, from the outset of horizon, fujitsu has been acquired by contract _ fujitsu has been acquired by contract to maintain an audit trail of all_ contract to maintain an audit trail of all transactions and events. see for example paragraph 3.1 of schedule a03 to the codified agreement of the 20th ofjuly 1999, agreement of the 20th ofjuly1999, and paragraph 3.1 of schedule d five to version_ and paragraph 3.1 of schedule d five to version 13 of the codified agreement of 23rd of november 2020. i'm not_ agreement of 23rd of november 2020. i'm not going to ask you any questions _ i'm not going to ask you any questions about the agreement of 2020 _ questions about the agreement of 2020 biggest prosecutions had stopped by then. this contractual obligation flowed from requirement 699 contained at paragraph 1.102 of schedule _ 699 contained at paragraph 1.102 of schedule a15, to the 1999 codified agreement. in particular, requirement 69—9 notes at: 1.1026 the content _ requirement 69—9 notes at: 1.1026 the content of the audit trail should — the content of the audit trail sho

fujitsu admits - brown. how could you? just why, why, why? fujitsu admits it - brown.s a moral obligation _ why, why? fujitsu admits it has a moral obligation to _ why, why? fujitsu admits it has a moral obligation to pay - a moral obligation to pay compensation but they will not say how much until after the enquiry is concluded at the end of this year. zoe conway, bbc news. ireland's taoiseach, leo varadkar, has defended a controversial court case his government has brought against the united kingdom. speaking to the bbc in davos, mrvaradkarsaid he had not wanted to take the uk to the european court of human rights over last year's troubles legacy act. but, he said he had to stand by victims and survivors of violence in northern ireland. 0ur economics editor, faisal islam, began by asking him about the new brexit deal for northern ireland, known as the windsor framework. i think the windsor framework is working. it marked a real improvement in relations between the uk and the european union. working if you like with the protocol and it is working effectively on the gr

you mentioned fujitsu there. the _ than two decades. you mentioned fujitsu there.he government - than two decades. you mentioned| fujitsu there. the government has been pressed about contracts with this company in light of what has happened in this scandal. what is their response been? are they taking any action to review their relationship with fujitsu? figs any action to review their relationship with fujitsu? relationship with fu'itsu? as you sa , relationship with fu'itsu? as you say. there h relationship with fu'itsu? as you say. there _ relationship with fujitsu? as you say, there are contracts - relationship with fujitsu? as you say, there are contracts that - relationship with fujitsu? as you | say, there are contracts that have been given out across whitehall to fujitsu. the government is under a huge amount of pressure to look at reviewing the contracts going forward. i think that we are going to be hearing over the next few days, particularly in the light of this evidence from fujitsu, about exactly what the government proposes to do. but we are talking a

i litigation support was a useful cash cow for fujitsu?— cow for fujitsu?s professionally - cow for fujitsu? i was professionally very i cow for fujitsu? i was - professionally very surprised cow for fujitsu? i was _ professionally very surprised that service _ professionally very surprised that service even existed. we are meant to be _ service even existed. we are meant to be an _ service even existed. we are meant to be an it— service even existed. we are meant to be an it company, not a prosecution support service and for that to _ prosecution support service and for that to be — prosecution support service and for that to be designed from the very earliest _ that to be designed from the very earliest stages, i was very, very surprised — earliest stages, i was very, very surprised at it. in terms of the work— surprised at it. in terms of the work associated with doing it, i have _ work associated with doing it, i have no— work associated with doing it, i have no view on it. i am amazed that it was— have no view on it. i am amazed that it was even— have

i started chasing fujitsu �*s japanese headquarters in 2022, when the public enquiry focused on fujitsu asked its global president to speak to me. he declined my request multiple times even when i asked forjust a written comment to the victims whose lives were turned upside down. that did not exactly surprised me because going silent when faced with bad news is quite a typical strategy forjapanese typical strategy for japanese companies. they typical strategy forjapanese companies. they did send me a statement last week saying... basically the company has remained tightlipped about it. the other issue to remember, while it may be difficult to believe, hardly anyone injapan has heard of the horizon scandal until very recently. when we spoke to fujitsu's japan former president in 2022 his reaction was horizon? what horizon? because it was developed by a british company international computers limited which fujitsu bought decades ago. icl had strong ties to the british government so it did give fujitsu an outsize presence in the uk and japanese companies often let international subsidiarie

yes, of course. l fujitsu has apologised. for the impact — fujitsu has apologised.ised. for the impact on the postmasters and all of their families.— their families. what do you think about fuiitsu _ their families. what do you think about fujitsu giving _ their families. what do you think about fujitsu giving the - their families. what do you think about fujitsu giving the money l their families. what do you think- about fujitsu giving the money back? the government suggested you should have returned the money. we understand — have returned the money. we understand it is ongoing public inquiry, — understand it is ongoing public inquiry, so i am sorry, i cannot comment— inquiry, so i am sorry, i cannot comment further about these topics. that was— comment further about these topics. that was the global chief executive of fujitsu talking to a bbc producer, repeating that apology but not being drawn into answers to the follow—up questions, but interesting, an apology both coming from the global chief executive and the european ceo in the last few hours. scotland's top

and a mea culpa from fujitsu. we did have bugs and errors in the system, and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the sub—postmaster is. for that, we are truly sorry. is that apology accepted by this postmaster? he was sectioned three times after having to find 108,000 to pay back the post office. and we'll talk to this labour mp calling for the government to pause fujitsu's contracts with multiple government departments. and should they, can they be blocked from government contracts in the future? good evening. the divisions in the conservative party were in full view today in the commons ahead of a vote tomorrow night on the prime minster�*s flagship safety of rwanda bill. nick's here. from your intel, what might happen tomorrow? mil from your intel, what might happen tomorrow? �* , , ., ., ., tomorrow? all eyes on that final vote before _ tomorrow? all eyes on that final vote before the _ tomorrow? all eyes on that final vote before the bill _ tomorrow? all eyes on that final vote before the bil

a senior fujitsu boss tells the post office inquiry it was well known there were bugs in the computer system from the start. confirmation that thousands ofjobs will go at tata steel — as the firm closes blast furnaces at britain's biggest steelworks in south wales. gunfire. israeli tanks mount a new assault into southern gaza's main city, khan younis — after intense air strikes and street fighting. the united states — has strongly criticised the israeli prime minister's rejection — of any need for a palestinian state, once the conflict in gaza is over. japan's space agency confirms its unmanned moon probe has landed on the lunar surface, but has lost solar power. and prince harry withdraws his libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday. hello, welcome to the daily global, where we'll bring you the top stories from around the world. the boss of fujitsu's european operations has admitted that although the company knew for �*many, many years�* of bugs and errors in the computer system, details of this were not included in witness statements by fujitsu employees which were us

has this impacted brand fujitsu at all?initely fair to say that its reputation has suffered significantly in the uk but in its home market of japan hardly anyone has heard of the post office scandal until recently because local media has hardly covered it until the british government started talking about those compensation and so on because of that tv drama by itv. so in a way its reputation has not been affected but at the same time its software injapan is not without controversy. when some of the members of the japanese public started finding out about the horizon scandal they started comparing how fujitsu's software which resulted in an all—day suspension of the tokyo stock exchange and how fujitsu software does not work anywhere. whether that is a fair assessment is not up to us but i thought it was interesting that they made those comparisons. in terms of that apology that we heard from the company's global president, they have been really tightlipped until yesterday when a bbc producer approached him at the world eco

fujitsu would like to apologise for our part _ fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in — fujitsu in the early 2000. we need to demonstrate that both to our customers, to government and to the wider— customers, to government and to the wider society in the uk. | customers, to government and to the wider society in the uk.— wider society in the uk. i have got in front of me _ wider society in the uk. i have got in front of me the _ wider society in the uk. i have got in front of me the fujitsu - wider society in the uk. i have got in front of me the fujitsu dove - wider society in the uk. i have goti in front of me the fujitsu dove con —— contact. it says we treat our customers fairly and with respect. did you live up to those values when it came to the sub—postmasters? ida. it came to the sub-postmasters? no, we did not- — it came to the sub-postmasters? no, we did not- it — it came to the sub-postmasters? no, we did not. it is _ it came to the sub—postmasters? no, we did not. it is very clear from the evidence before the committee and also _ the evidence before the committee and

why does fujitsu feel it is above that? i fujitsu feel it is above that?s view on the proposed legislation - sound bite. what is fujitsu's view on the proposed legislation is? l on the proposed legislation is? think the prison sentences are appropriate or inappropriate to those found guilty? i appropriate or inappropriate to those found guilty?— those found guilty? i have no expertise- — those found guilty? i have no expertise. will _ those found guilty? i have no expertise. will fujitsu - those found guilty? i have no expertise. will fujitsu give i those found guilty? i have no| expertise. will fujitsu give its expertise. will fu'itsu give its full expertise. will fu'itsu give its fuusupponh expertise. will fu'itsu give its full support of_ expertise. will fujitsu give its full support of victims - expertise. will fujitsu give its full support of victims to - expertise. will fujitsu give its full support of victims to have their convictions quashed? i will sa two their convictions quashed? i will say two things _ their convictions quashed? i will say two

the fujitsu boss has injuries. the fujitsu boss has told mps.t office knew about the bugs and errors in the honzon about the bugs and errors in the horizon system. the business trade committee are hearing from key figures in the post office scandal, including wrongfully convicted subpostmaster alan bates. they're looking at the appeal processes in place to help overturn convictions and deliver compensations to victims . the fujitsu boss has apologised and says the company have a moral obligation to contribute to the compensation scheme. he said management knew of the it issues very early on. more than 300 fujitsu employees have announced they'll take strike action from tomorrow in their dispute over pay . members their dispute over pay. members of the public and commercial services union will walk out for a day , followed by further a day, followed by further action next month, the union says. action next month, the union says . employees have been says. employees have been offered a pay rise of between 3% and 4, which it said is ten times less

will fujitsu - those found guilty? i have no expertise. will fujitsu give i those found guilty?| expertise. will fujitsu give its expertise. will fu'itsu give its fullsupporth expertise. will fu'itsu give its full support of_ expertise. will fujitsu give its full support of victims - expertise. will fujitsu give its full support of victims to - expertise. will fujitsu give its full support of victims to have their convictions quashed? i willi their convictions quashed? i will sa two their convictions quashed? i will say two things _ their convictions quashed? i will say two things on _ their convictions quashed? i will say two things on this _ their convictions quashed? in ii say two things on this topic. since my appointment i have been absolutely steadfast in our support for the inquiry and any information that a sub—postmaster needs... it is that a sub-postmaster needs... it is about that a sub—postmaster needs... it is about legislation coming before the housein about legislation coming before the house in a couple of weeks. will fujitsu support what the government intends t

. , . , ., fujitsu? it was always via the casework _ fujitsu?he casework team. anything - fujitsu? it was always via the | casework team. anything that was required would go via the casework team. ., ., required would go via the casework team. ., ~ ,, ., ., team. thank you. if we go to the next document. _ team. thank you. if we go to the next document. we _ team. thank you. if we go to the next document. we have - team. thank you. if we go to the next document. we have there l team. thank you. if we go to the i next document. we have there are some comments that mrjenkins made. he says, "i've been asked to comment on the witness report produced by charles mclachlan. " can we bring on to screen your statement? page five, paragraph ten. you say as relation, it relates to gareth jenkins, "i did not know he was expected to be an expert witness. my understanding of an expert witness is someone who has greater knowledge in their particular field than the ordinary person. i may have spoken with him at the same court but i do not recall having any disc

paul patterson, basically the head of fujitsu in | basically the head of fujitsu in europe. relevance of what he is going to say in his evidence. i think we can expect a very detailed interrogation this morning. he is due to appear in just a few minutes' time. the reason why his evidence is so significant is because fujitsu played a central role in the post office scandal. 0ver played a central role in the post office scandal. over the years, over 0ffice scandal. over the years, over several years, 0ffice scandal. over the years, over severalyears, fujitsu 0ffice scandal. over the years, over several years, fujitsu employees were giving evidence in court cases that resulted in sub—postmasters going to prison. what we have been hearing at this inquiry over the last few days is that whilst fujitsu employees were signing witness statements saying that the horizon software system the post office was using was operating properly, at the same time behind—the—scenes fujitsu employees were e—mailing each other, sending each other memos, holding meetings about their concerns about th

the from those fujitsu bosses.he current bosses have been talking to in to a select committee in parliament, and the former bosses have been talking to the honzon bosses have been talking to the horizon post office inquiry. yes >> so the i don't know why we didn't act came from the europe chief, paul patterson . he was chief, paul patterson. he was asked why did they not act when they knew there were glitches , they knew there were glitches, glitches in the system ? he says, glitches in the system? he says, i don't know, i really don't know. and he says on a personal level, i wish i did well. yes, that would be nice. >> i think i know why they didn't act. come on. i think it's probably quite probable that they hoped act. well, that they hoped that act. well, i think they thought acting i think they thought that acting would be expensive, time consuming and lose them contracts. and hey, it's only a few postmasters that might be affected by a by a few tens of thousands of pounds. so these bosses, what money is that ?

in 2019, the court of appeal found there were defects in the fujitsu system.tion for fujitsu — the company built a system that failed. will it be paying compensation? the horizon system is still place — the post office paid an additional £100 million to extend the contract till the end of next year. fujitsu has continued to win other government contracts with hmrc, the mod, the home office and others, worth billions of pounds. this begs the question — should fujitsu be trusted with delivering key services? well, the european boss of fujitsu faces mps at 11:30am tomorrow morning. reeta. the race for the white house officially gets under way tonight, with republican supporters in iowa meeting to give their preference on who should be the candidate in november�*s election. donald trump is the firm favourite and has predicted a record victory. but, with temperatures in the state plummeting to as low as minus 30, turnout could be a factor. 0ur north american editor, sarah smith, has the latest. expectations around donald trump ask i had this evening because polls s

is this the fujitsu system... — is this the fujitsu gueye?ears ago, but he was convicted of theft when he couldn't explain £44,000 of losses showing on the computer system. i think there is a moral obligation for the company to contribute, and i think... quite pleasing to hear him saying that _ quite pleasing to hear him saying that as _ quite pleasing to hear him saying that. as the first time we have heard — that. as the first time we have heard anything like that from fujitsu, — heard anything like that from fujitsu, and also openly admitting they were — fujitsu, and also openly admitting they were part of the problem. next _ they were part of the problem. next comes the current boss of the post office. we know it is an extremely complex situation... we know it is an extremely complex situation- - -— situation... how does it feel, scots, listening _ situation... how does it feel, scots, listening to _ situation... how does it feel, scots, listening to this? - situation... how does it feel, scots, listening to this? it i situation... how do

fujitsu apologises and is sorry for our part in this appalling miscarriage ofjustice.s inquiry is examining those events frantically over many, many decades which involve many parties, not least after one and the post office with other organisations and individuals. we are determined to continue to support this inquiry and get to the truth wherever it lays. and at the conclusion of the inquiry at the guidance from this inquiry, engage with government on suitable contribution and for trash to the sub—postmasters in their families. for more on this we go live now to our correspondent zoe conway who's outside the inquiry in central london. let's ta ke let's take this in stages because it was extraordinary evidence in part from the european boss talking about it being shameful that witness statements had been edited. tell me more about that and the exchanges around that. it more about that and the exchanges around that-— around that. it was striking. just how damning — around that. it was striking. just how damning paul— around that. it was striking. just how damning paul

fujitsu has apologised. fujitsu is taking it seriously, he says.ud here and there. wednesday promises to be another largely sunny one towards the south, a bit more cloud around, i think, for southern britain. and we�*ll continue with the snow showers across northern coastal parts of scotland and into northern ireland. and we�*ll continue with the snow showers across northern coastal parts of scotland and into northern ireland. these weather fronts bringing this rain, sleet and snow to the north of the uk sinking southwards and weakening. so, during the overnight period, there�*ll be no more than a band of cloud running southwards across england and wales, maybe just a few snow flurries on it. and there could be the chance of this area of low pressure over france could push a bit further northwards to give some rain, sleet and snow to southern counties of england early on wednesday. the snow showers continue. northern scotland, northern ireland under clear skies. it�*s going to be very cold, a sharp frost across the northern half of the country. so,

about fujitsu _ daughter of a far east pow. about fujitsu. fujitsu seem to have managed _ fujitsu.ered and conversations will be had. you those questions can be answered and conversations will be had.— conversations will be had. you have not actually — conversations will be had. you have not actually said _ conversations will be had. you have not actually said are _ conversations will be had. you have not actually said are you _ conversations will be had. you have not actually said are you going - conversations will be had. you have not actually said are you going to i not actually said are you going to continue — not actually said are you going to continue giving fujitsu government contracts _ continue giving fujitsu government contracts as a result of their past history— contracts as a result of their past history with horizon?— history with horizon? horizon is faul . history with horizon? horizon is faulty- we _ history with horizon? horizon is faulty- we do — history with horizon? horizon is faulty. we do not _ history with horizon? horizon is faulty. we do not know- history wi

, , . , , fujitsu? this is what the inquiry is there to do _ fujitsu? because what we'll i fujitsu? this is what the inquiry is there to do because what we'll do | fujitsu? this is what the inquiry is l there to do because what we'll do is get the answers from sir wyn williams, the retired judge, and when we get that we will get the accountability, including fujitsu, frankly, because there's no way to the taxpayer should be on the book for all of this compensation. if others can clearly be proved to have notjust been wrong that double down on it in that process. band notjust been wrong that double down on it in that process.— on it in that process. and first of all, on it in that process. and first of all. should _ on it in that process. and first of all, should paula _ on it in that process. and first of all, should paula vennells i on it in that process. and first of all, should paula vennells give l on it in that process. and first of i all, should paula vennells give back her cbe? in all, should paula vennells give back her cbe? , , , ., her cbe? in

0vernight we have seen the share price of fujitsu form by 3%.ding a 3k year high. regency and the markets are moving in different directions. i think that is a reflection both of the potential financial costs of regency pot perhaps more importantly the reputational damage of this failed horizon system. might surprise people that the horizon system is still being used, and fujitsu are still involved. tallk us through why that is. it is not that easy to unpick, such a huge bit of software. that is the other side to this question. the government procurement processes are under the spotlight. this story has been rumbling on for many years but even while that has been happening, the government has been giving contracts to fujitsu, something like £3 billion worth over the last ten years. as you say, it is very difficult to unpick. fujitsu is heavily involved in a number of government it systems across many different departments. hmrc, the nhs, really all over. unpicking the relationship between the uk government and fujitsu is potentially really diffi

will fu'itsu be bidding for other fujitsu. will fujitsu be bidding for other government _ fujitsu.overnment contracts while the inquiry is going on? or should you withdraw until the inquiry has been heard and fujitsu's culpability has been decided? taste heard and fujitsu's culpability has been decided?— been decided? we provide many services to _ been decided? we provide many services to government - been decided? we provide many services to government today i been decided? we provide many i services to government today across a range — services to government today across a range of — services to government today across a range of services. _ services to government today across a range of services. we _ services to government today across a range of services. we have - services to government today across a range of services. we have regular conversations— a range of services. we have regular conversations with _ a range of services. we have regular conversations with the _ a range of services. we have regular conversations with the department i conversations with the department ab

fujitsu is going to explain in _ proposed by fujitsu is going to explain in any court proceedings thee look at page _ riposte lock events. can we look at page seven, — riposte lock events. can we look at page seven, please? at the top of the page, the top half. _ at the top of the page, the top half. in — at the top of the page, the top half, in december2007 at the top of the page, the top half, in december 2007 an occurrence was reported in one office. this led to a previously unseen database log where _ to a previously unseen database log where a _ to a previously unseen database log where a balance and transaction had failed _ where a balance and transaction had failed to— where a balance and transaction had failed to be — where a balance and transaction had failed to be reported to an unseen database — failed to be reported to an unseen database. a financial imbalance was evident _ database. a financial imbalance was evident and was subject to an infinite — evident and was subject to an infinite -- _ evident and was subject to an infinite —— subject to an investigation by fujitsu

fujitsu has apologised. fujitsu is taking it seriously, he says.c news. our business editor, simonjack, is with us, and worth seeing to our world viewers, this has been roaming on for a long time, came to the fore over the christmas spirit with an itv drama which serialised it in the public consciousness, and we got to this moment today, and it was a moment. . , ,': :: this moment today, and it was a moment. . , ;;:: , ., , this moment today, and it was a moment. . iga: , ., , ., ., ., ., moment. nearly 30 years of a saga of distrust and — moment. nearly 30 years of a saga of distrust and deceit _ moment. nearly 30 years of a saga of distrust and deceit and _ moment. nearly 30 years of a saga of distrust and deceit and despair - moment. nearly 30 years of a saga of distrust and deceit and despair on - distrust and deceit and despair on the part of the victims was crystallised injust the part of the victims was crystallised in just a few hours in a committee room in the house of commons. they headline grabberfor this was that fujitsu, who built the

fujitsu has said it won't bid for more government contracts while the inquiry is continuing. political correspondent helen catt about what mps in the select committee are looking at. they are looking at details of all the contracts awarded to fujitsu since 2019. and why 2019? that was the date when the high court ruled that the horizon post office system which was installed across post offices across the country was defective. the committee has written to a number of different departments to find out what contracts have been awarded since then. they want to know details of it, notjust the value of those but, for example, how they were awarded, with done through open competition? the chair of the committee harriett baldwin, a conservative mp, said this is about surfacing information, it is not about punishing fujitsu. how widespread is the company's involvement in government departments? it is understood to be pretty widespread. one estimate has been there has been £4 billion worth of work awarded to fujitsu in the last five years and one of the obvious examples that springs t

fujitsu witnesses claim horizon�*s information was "reliable" and "robust."e take their own lives. we got hold of an audit report in 2011 from consultants ey, warning some it staff have "unrestricted access" to postmasters�* horizon accounts which "may lead to the processing of unauthorised or erroneous transactions" ? something the post office continues to deny for years. in 2013, the board discusses a review by the consultants second sight which finds two bugs in horizon. injuly 2013, a concerned barrister for the post office, simon clarke, writes formal advice saying... "there are a number of now convicted defendants to whom the existence of bugs should have been disclosed but was not." we've got hold of minutes showing "the board were concerned that the review opened the business up to claims of wrongful prosecution". but the post office didn't halt prosecutions until two years later. and it wasn't until seven years later, after the post office had spent millions of pounds public money trying to crush the postmasters�* claims, that the advice given to the

. for fujitsu. >> um , why did fujitsu or the >> um, why did fujitsu or the post office just sit backand try and help them and get get the issues resolved amicably. basically took the attitude that we're just going to prosecute these people and basically, um, there were feared for the livelihoods adds. so i'm actually committed suicide as a result of the post office policy . why was this case? >> well, as i say, i can't answer for specifically for what was happening pre 2015. i simply wasn't in the business at the time . what i can empathise with time. what i can empathise with is that i've spent a lot of this last year speaking individually to postmasters who are victims of scandal , to postmasters who are victims of scandal, and i've had private meetings with over 30 of those, and a number of them have certainly talked to me about the trauma associated with this, the way that they were treated and handled. and i think that is something that has come through in human evidence that has in the human evidence that has been displayed inquiry , been displayed at the inquiry, and has come

what about the bonuses fujitsu? bonuses paid to the people in charge at the post office when this scandal happened? i'll be deaung scandal happened? i'll be dealing with all of those issues in my monologue at ten. you won't want to miss it. but first, angela levin joins me for the royal dispatch . i do love the royal dispatch. i do love that dramatic music . prince that dramatic music. prince william headed north today to present cbs two rugby stars, rob burrow and kevin sinfield , after burrow and kevin sinfield, after their campaign to highlight motor neurone disease captured the hearts of the nation . 41 the hearts of the nation. 41 year old burrow is battling the degenerative condition and has joined forces with sinfield to run marathons and raise awareness right across the country . country. >> thank you. thank you raised so much. the profile mnd, your brotherly um bond relationship . brotherly um bond relationship. this interview has been so amazing to watch and the inspiration for everyone to kind amazing to

we will hear from fujitsu.e spot by a number of mps, because frankly, they have not said very much at all since the high court case came down in favour of the sub—postmasters in 2019. the most comprehensive reply to any mp question was our letter written in 2020, which dodged a lot of the questions that were asked and because it was not a live environment, 2020 was a time when select committee hearings were suspended to cope with the pandemic, this is now the first opportunity that the inquiry and in parliament where there will be an opportunity to find out what fujitsu have been thinking and doing to remediate the situation that they partly created. we have seen from lots of the reports the anguish, the devastation, that these people have been left in. what the victims of this whole scandal need to make them feel like there is some kind of resolution from fujitsu when they hear them talk today?— resolution from fujitsu when they hear them talk today? well, fu'itsu rovided hear them talk today? well, fu'itsu pr

fujitsu has apologised. it's a big issue, which fujitsu takes seriously, he says.ow. emma simpson, bbc news. at the scottish parliament, the country's top prosecutor has apologised for the failings in the system that led to the wrongful conviction of post office branch managers in scotland. let's speak to our scotland editor, james cook. how is this scandal unfolding in scotland? it how is this scandal unfolding in scotland? , , , ' scotland? it is slightly different here because, _ scotland? it is slightly different here because, well _ scotland? it is slightly different here because, well the - scotland? it is slightly different here because, well the post - scotland? it is slightly different i here because, well the post office investigated the case is here, they were prosecuted by the crown office, perhaps 100 involving evidence related to that faulty horizon software. today the lord advocate said the crown office first became aware of problems with horizon or potential problems in 2013 but after receiving reassurances from the post office they continued to pro