i said to my daughter that we are going to walk to fulham road because it would be impossible, the trafficazy. so that is what we did. we turned around and walked back towards gloucester road and made our way to that area, gloucester road and chelsea to get to fulham road to meet with our friends and i think it was when i was outside the coffee shop when i saw the bbc news pop up, it came up on my phone, breaking news when i realised what had happened. i was just news when i realised what had happened. i wasjust about to ask you, it seems at that point you were unaware of the scale of the police response and the police might be responding to something bigger than an accident? no, no, not at all. i was so upset when i saw the news. i understand now that it is not confirmed really what happened, but you know, if it was a terrorist attack, i mean obviously, we were not aware. the police were really calm. so were the people. there was no panic. no, you know, the police we re no panic. no, you know, the police were not telling us anything. all they said was that... we must leave it there. thank