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parties are really closely watching this lawsuit, even though julie adams is outnumbered on the fulton county board and can actually block the certification there. they wonder what this lawsuit could mean for other counties in georgia, perhaps ones where there are more republicans on the board and the state election board in georgia is also considered during changes to the certification process, like allowing board members to demand more information or conduct a reasonable inquiry before they certify. and i just want to note that we did ask adams attorney about the previous comments she made about election workers in the state and she's in he said it was irrelevant to her career in los uh-huh. >> okay. sara murray keeping an eye on this for us. thank you. so much. we have some new video coming in. it is the democratic presumptive presidential nominee, vice president kamala harris meeting with voters at a restaurant with his what it called an otr, not on the official schedule, but the media is there we can try to listen in for a minute or so. >> let's let's do that all right. >> they haven't r

what about fulton county? >> i think fulton county has now been further delayed as well.gations we see in the federal case. even though trump can't pardon himself for a state case, can't have his officials dismiss a state case, this immunity argument would apply in a state case. just as judge chutkan has to engage in an evidentiary hearing, i think we're going to have to see the same thing in georgia. >> what a day. what a year for the skourlt. at some point we can absorb everything that's happened including chevron which we haven't even begun to dig into and all those implications. catherine christian, barbara mcquade, thank you very much. >>> that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media @mitchellreports. you can watch us on youtube. go to msnbc.com/andre "chris jansing reports" starts right after this. "chris jansing reports" starts right after this because advil targets pain at the source of inflammation. so for faster pain relief, advil the pain away. (♪♪) [shaking] itchy pet? (♪♪) with chewy, save 20% on your first pharm

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the bottom line here is that fulton county da fani willis may have another problem on our hands. her case against donald trump is stalled and now this one, fred, is two fredricka. >> all right. nick valencia. thank you so much. a new our of the cnn news central starts right now unscripted events and an aggressive travel schedule. those are the pillars of the biden campaign's new plan to save his reelection bid. as he struggles to reassure voters and donors that he is fit for a second term. the top brass of the world group that oversees swimming competitions. ordered to testify in a us criminal well investigation. those investigators want to know why 23 chinese swimmers failed doping tests. but we're still allowed to compete and win medals at the tokyo olympics. and a shark scare at a texas beach, at least three people injured. now authorities are trying to figure out how to keep swimmer safe. water. i'm fredricka whitfield with erica hill, john, kate, and sarah are off today. and this is cnn news central well. this is a crucial day for president joe biden for the camp payne. he's

and then all the shenanigans evolving the fulton county prosecutor in atlanta, that is essential actually pushed that case until after the election. this is going in people's thought, guys got all of these criminal charges. this is going to derail any general election candidate. now he's gonna go essentially the clean slate. yes, he was convicted in the new york case, but the political impact of that is not been seen as significant as these other cases, the supreme court case, and at least the trump lawyers believe this. they believe that it does affect in new york case and it's going to force the new york case to remove a bunch of evidence that they tried that they used in that case. so as you said everything is being delayed, like donald trump is here in milwaukee right now. he's going to come into this hall behind us. perhaps as early as tonight. i mean, it could be i mean, it could be an people say, what historic moment i will say it will be a rather rockets moment in here. yeah, no kidding. so the if you look at does all the criminal cases, do you view this one that was just dismiss

what about the case in fulton county, georgia. could the supreme court's decision impact that, given it is a state charge, not a federal one? >> it could, in the sense that it grants the president immunity and it is a stronger case to make against state prosecutions although mechanically, constitutionally, it is a different mechanism. when it is the executive branch of the federal government trying to prosecute a president you may have separation of powers issues but this may fall within the supremacy clause. they have the argument that a lot of this conduct was really state related and they can make the argument that this was trump acting as an office seeker, not an officeholder but there is a lot of overlap between the charges in fulton county and the state court, and the charges in federal court when it comes to election interference. you have some of the exact same facts that are alleged so if that is immune conduct in federal court likely they're going to make the same argument that it is immune conduct in state court in geor

joining me former fulton county georgia deputy district attorney and msnbc legal analyst alyssa redmanrmer federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst kristy greenberg. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is here. chuck rosenberg is also still with me. lisa, what does this mean for jack smith's ability to move the case forward? >> it's a very interesting question and a very open one. at the least we'll see hearings before judge chutkan in terms of at least three of the buckets of allegations here and whether or not they constitute official or unofficial conduct. but remember, one of the things that the court does at the very outset is to say he's certainly absolutely immune from one bucket of allegations, and that's with respect to his interactions with the department of justice. we know that for sure will be off the table, not only in terms of the charged conduct, but also in terms of what evidence can be considered at trial because that is a part of this ruling as well. the court saying anything that constitutes an official act for which the department does not overcome the presumpti

the fulton county, georgia, case, a piece is on appeal. the piece involving a relationship between the d.a. and a member of the staff, so that's not going to be tried anytime soon, and now his classified documents case has been dismissed so i'm going to be optimistic like barb mcquaid and say it's a blessing in disguise. i always try to look at the glass being half full as opposed to half empty, but the reality is there will be no other cases tried this year. if donald trump is reelected as president both of the federal cases i'm pretty certain will disappear. so if he's not, you know, then we'll have to wait because this case will be appealed to the 11th circuit, and then if donald trump loses in the 11th circuit, it will be appealed to the united states supreme court. that will take a very, very long time. it will not have an effect on the manhattan case because it has nothing to do with the special counsel, but that case is already, you know, on a little shaky ground, though i think it's defensible for judge merchan to not set aside the

. >> i do want to ask you about the case that the former president is facing in fulton county.iously, given the pace of the proceedings, it doesn't seem like that's going to be figured out in the courtroom before the election. if the former president wins in november, would you support a pardon for him well, i would just say i got to be very careful about what i say in regards to that case because i'm a subpoenaed witness. >> that case. i wouldn't want to weigh in on your question. not that i'm trying and to dodge. it will see i'm like, you i don't think that case is going to go to trial before november, i think quite honestly a lot of people around the country feel like all these cases have been politically motivated and certainly there's been other instances in the fulton county case that have created other issues that have delayed the trial. so, you know, we just got to let all that play out, but i'll be honest, we had thing that democrats have overplayed their hand on a lot of those things. i think people are our of all of that. they're ready to just go vote and let the ele

he wants to go into places like fulton county, georgia, and try to convince voters that he lost, these double haters or obama trump voters, that becomes hugely important and for trump that means a 50-state strategy and also involves a lot of money. >> what about governor gavin newsom? he's been stumping for president biden since the debate. how much of that is being a good soldier for his part or getting his name out there should he be called to replace biden? >> it's both those things. it's difficult to see a pathway forward for gavin newsom this cycle. this is also about a future cycle. his term ends in 2026. that gives him plenty of opportunity to direct a new democratic party towards 2028. gavin newsom and his team want to see him as ronald reagan, bill clinton, and barack obama leading the democratic party in a new place. that's not something that happens with a lot of exposure and a long campaign. that's part of the sizzle or appeal for him now, but it's hard to see given all the roadblocks and other inertia particularly of his political cousin, kamala harris, the vice president,

he's facing dozens more state and federal charges including election interference charges in fulton county put it away because you want him to be president. >> reporter: some refusing to vote for convicted felon. some telling us it won't impact them voting for trump. it is one of the key swing states. we will see what happens in november. molly: coming up, we will look at stories going viral this weekend. >> a special preview of the republican national convention. fox news will keep you ready for all the action. democracy 24 coverage with the premier lineup from the number one name in news. can't miss analysis from the voices america trusts. >> this is democracy 24. >> your freedom, your vote. >> a preview of the republican national convention sunday on the fox news channel. america is watching. serious. introducing new $3 footlong dippers. the world might not be ready for them... ...but at $3 a pop? your wallet definitely is. every day, more dog people are deciding it's time for a fresh approach to pet food. developed with vets. made from real meat and veggies. portioned for your dog. and

what will happen in fulton county, in philadelphia, in detroit, in milwaukee, and the like.eople to turnout in the rate we saw in 2022 we have a different ballgame. i am just saying be careful. do no harm in the choice. >> i will take a leap, it sounds like you are using david as your shield for no schapiro but i am guessing you are in that camp, who do you want her to pick? >> it is not about josh schapiro. it is me just ring mindful of insisting that the campaign be mindful of the tensions around gaza that is animating young voters, i want her to be mindful of the progressive wing and how they galvanized their energies around her. the excitement in college campuses and young black folk around her. i want her to make a decision that is mindful of these things. governor cooper in north carolina, governor wolf in minnesota. am i giving away something sir? i think i might be. that is okay. >> i know i am out of time but at the same time does harris need to play defense to those that want to paint her as more progressive than she may be an to someone that is more centrist? >> i

fani willis in fulton county, georgia, and that case is done. obviously for her conduct and hiring her boyfriend, married boyfriend, to prosecute the case. it was like they better call saul of prosecutors basically they were trying to go forward with. she lied about it and got caught. that case is done. now jack smith in the documents case is done officially. so there's nothing left for democrats at this point, stuart, as far as taking out donald trump through the judicial system and recognizing it and now i guess they have to run on the issues and character and joe biden versus donald trump and there couldn't be a bigger contrast in terms of the way they want to run the country and that's what this election should be about, decided at ballot box, decided by policy in world view and not by this crack, this stuff that democrats put farred as far as trying to take out donald trump and jailing him before this election even oc occurred. stuart: take a look at money. a lot of green on wall street this morning. dow is up 150 and nasdaq up over 100 poi

my family was persecuted by rogue prosecutors in fulton county. i know, fulton county.raud. really, we were defrauded by a dishonest business partner. let's not forget, the government gave him full immunity. we suffered warrantless raids and harassment. one of the officials even have my father's face on a dartboard in his office. my parents were sentenced to a combined 19 years. [crowd booing] i know. let me tell you, i got custody of my brother and sister. 10 and 16 at the time. you don't know heartache until you look children in the eyes and say, i don't know when mom and dad are coming home. i will never forget what the prosecutor said and the most heavily democratic county in the state. before an obama judge. he called us the trump of the south. [crowd booing] plenty of fun. he meant it as an insult. let me tell you, i wear it as a badge of honor. [crowd cheering] we live in a nation founded on freedom, liberty, and justice for all. justice is supposed to be blind. but today, we have a two faith justice system. just look at what they are doing to president trump. al

as an office seeker, not an officeholder, but there is a lot of overlap between the charges in fulton county state court, and the charges in federal court when it comes to election interference. you have some of the same facts that are alleged. if that is immune conduct in federal court, likely they will make the same argument that it is immune conduct in state court, in georgia. that is only one element. georgia has problems of its own, because that stays stalled because of a motion to dismiss the prosecutor. trump can't get rid of the case with a pardon or the justice department, but the georgia case is on the ropes. >> let's talk about the hush money case and the delay in sentencing until september 18. what did you expect judge merchan to decide on how the immunity ruling impacts the verdict, now that that case has concluded, at least the trial part of it has concluded? >> this is how lawyers and everyone else studies the words in a judges order like they are some religious text and i would initially think that the judge would be inclined to say, look, a lot of this conduct seems clearly

ago lot more state and federal charges, including election interference charges right here in fulton county and the georgia voters i spoke to were split how that's going to impact their vote. overall the opinions were pretty much 50-50 on other voter issues like the economy and immigration. back to you. molly: it is exciting to be in one of those swing states, especially now as we get closer and closer to election day. thank you so much. appreciate it. madison scarpino. griff: earlier this week it was a-list actor george clooney calling on president biden to drop out of the race and now late night hosts are following his lead. christina coleman is live in los angeles, it seems like hollywood is bailing on biden. >> it sure does, griff. president biden's gaffs have been under the microscope since the dismal debate performances calls to drop out of the race and jokes about it or the late night shows. listen to bill maher. >> new rule, stop (bleep) around. the issue with president biden isn't if, it's who. who will replace him? because he is not going to be the democrat's candidate for preside

there will be no trial for the federal election interference case or classified documents case or fulton countyction interference case before january when he could potentially re-enter the white house. for him, this is effectively 3 1/2 years of being able to sidestep actions that were taken largely during the time that he was in the white house. >> vaughn, you have covered them so intensively. what is their reaction? are they -- plus, what they are saying on the other side. >> if i may assert this. this is not normal for donald trump or his campaign, but they are largely silent right now. they are allowing the democratic party and the fallout from joe biden -- president biden's debate performance to play out here. there's j.d. vance, a potential vp pick who put out a post after the judge announced the delayed sentening saying that -- implying that this was a political move to wait to see whether joe biden stays in the race or not. he sent a tweet a few moments later saying, but this is still good for us. sort of that mixed messaging effort. by and large, there's acknowledgement that for donald

conviction former president is still facing a lot more state and federal charges including here in fulton countyfelon is looked up from and put in office. plugs that we are even talking about it as the farce of our times. >> people here also had a lot of mixed opinions about which candidate will be better for the economy and immigration for the big question now is will georgia voters pull through for president biden in 2024 it's a state a lot of people will be watching in november, back to you. arthel: indeed madison scarpino thank you live in atlanta. eric: former president trump is holding a preconvention rally in pennsylvania today it's going to with the beutler farm show in the western part of the state near pittsburgh. the former president on the swing state in 2016. president biden flipped it in 2020 but right now posters considered a tossup it is a key to winning the white house in november so who could take it? charlie joined us he is a republican political strategist former vice chair of the american conservative union. charlie, good to see a biden one at one point to percent in 2020 wh

including election interference charges right here in fulton county. >> it does not matter how much youe him, how much s he didn the passive is a previous president in the country convicted felon is a convicted felon and a crime is a crime proprotect some are refusing to vote for convicted felons of people telling us and does not affect the road for trump this is of course a key swing state that's going to have a lot of eyes on it in november. arthel: absolutely. madison scarpino thank you there in atlanta. >> for me this is not about the job president biden's done pretty spin a great president. it's about winning. we all know what president biden. we all are very close to president biden think he has been a great president, et cetera, and public servant. folks are asking tough questions right now by sue burke california democratic congressman early on fox news discussing the calls are president biden to step aside. he thanks the president should stay in the race. many of the issues as you know the party it seems to be divided. nineteen congressional democrats have publicly called on th

philadelphia, milwaukee, detroit, fulton county. it changes the map.ut a lot of work needs to be done. >> let's talk about that. we know that democratic presidents in recent cycles who have won have done well with young voters, with voters of color, voters in those cities. when hillary clinton lost, she didn't do quite as well as obama had done before her. biden better in '20, but polls suggest there has been an erosion of support in those groups. polls at least before the announcement suggested vice president harris was not as popular in the groups as, say, barack obama was. is she the right messager, and can she excite them? >> i think the historic nature of her nomination but, more importantly, the context in which the historic nomination has happened, right? when you had the choice between president biden and former president trump, you know, these two 81-year-old and 78-year-old, the country seems to be backward looking. the future isn't really in view. there's something about this nomination. no matter what you think about her politics, no matter

james is office to make sure the civil case was proceeding but you also have the meetings with fulton countynt out from joe biden where he said he was going to hold donald trump accountable to the law in all the folks pick this up whether merrick garland, fani willis or alvin bragg in order to do election interference and fortunately for the rule of law, the system has worked in pushback against the novel legal theories which they have been trying to get donald trump with in the election year. maria: let me get your take on the work of the day that is for the congresswoman anna paulina luna expected to force a vote in a resolution that would find attorney general mark hunter merrick garland $10000 a day would not complying with the subpoena to handover the audiotapes from biden's interview with the special counsel robert hur. mike johnson said if it's brought to the floor he will vote for but sources told me that johnson has concerns and actually trying to stop luna. i spoke with one lawmaker the said johnson is trying to stop luna from introducing her contempt resolution and he's been doing

we can talk about what can happen in fulton county, what's going to happen in philadelphia, what's goinghappen in detroit, what's going to happen in milwaukee and the like, right? and if we get young people to turnout at the rate that we saw in 2022, we've got a different ball in, so we got to be careful. i'm just saying be careful. do no harm in the choice. that's all i'm suggesting. >> okay then, eddie, i'm going to take a leap. it sounds like you're using david hogg as your shield for a no shapiro but i'm guessing that you're in that camp. who do you want her to pick? >> no, it's nothing about shapiro. it's not me saying no to josh shapiro. who said no to josh shapiro? it's really just me trying to be mindful of insisting that the campaign be mindful of the tensions around gaza, that's really animating young voters. i want her to be mindful of this progressive wing and how they've galvanized their energies around her. the excitement in college campuses and young black folk around her. so i just wanted to make a decision that's mindful of these things, so just be careful. there is coop

believes people need to have the freedom to do, building intergeneration wealth, a big issue in fulton countyorgia, where that message i think resonates with a lot of younger voters, young african american men who have talked about needing to hear more economic issues. she talked about bringing down the cost of living, standing up to corporate landlords who are unfairly raising rents. she talked about trump's plan that would raise prices, make things less affordable than they are now, and she closed with we are not going back. then she goes into the war on freedom. she said the baton is in our hands and it's the highest form of patriotism to fight for the ideals of our country. then she landed with donald trump pulling out of that debate. she said, donald trump doesn't want to debate her, but he sure has a lot to say about me, was her quote. she said if you got something to say, donald, say it to my face. still with me here at the table, alencia johnson and sarah matthews. what did you think? >> listen, that was the presidential speech. and the kamala harris that i know, joy, we were talking

trump's other election interference case, the one brought by district attorney fanni willis in fulton countya. trump and his lawyers asserted presidential immunity in this case as well, meaning the judge overseeing that case, judge scott mcafee, will have to parse through that indictment to determine what may now be off limits and judge mcafee won't be able to start that process until an appeals court decides whether or not to grant trump's motion to throw d.a. willis off the case. don't expect any significant movement down in georgia anytime soon. now in trump's new york hush money case where trump has already been convicted on 34 felony counts, yesterday we got the news the sentencing has been postponed from next week to september in order to give trump's legal time sufficient time to argue the case should be tossed out entirely because of the supreme court's immunity decision. down in florida in trump's classified documents case, even though that case is primarily about actions in trump's post presidency, actions that in no way could be construed as official acts, trump is still trying to

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election interference case that we were talking about, also you've got the case in fulton county, georgialago documents case. glenn, which of those are most affected by this ruling or is there anything in this ruling that could allow those to go forward? i mean, it's all been delay, delay, delay. >> yeah, i think they are all potentially affected, and we're seeing that now in the new york state court prosecution, which is a conviction in which he's pending sentencing. there was a motion filed to litigate whether any of the statements, any of the evidence that was introduced in that new york case is now sort of retroactively prohibited based on this new supreme court opinion. i think that those were almost exclusively private, nonofficial acts, so that case should ultimately proceed to sentencing. i think there will be a more direct impact on his other pending prosecutions both in georgia and in florida, so we can expect the litigation to explode in those other cases as a result of this new supreme court opinion, which really doesn't put out a lot of guidance about how these issues are to

they delivered a win for him on the january 6th case, maybe even the new york case and the fulton county case at the same time. so my listeners, joy, they're worked up, they're animated they want to go out and scream. they don't want to hear about joe biden dropping out. they want to hear about defeating donald trump. that's all they want to hear. >> the issue right now is the democratic party has to figure out what they're going to do with their nominee but it doesn't matter which person they pick. they could pick shapiro in pennsylvania, vice president harris. they could pick anybody they want. it doesn't matter. all of those people believe in the rule of law. all of those people believe in democracy. the problem is trump. it could be -- biden could be, you know, biden's brain in a jar. i think a lot of people are like i'll vote for that. because at least biden's brain in a jar still believes in the constitution and doesn't think that he's the king of the united states. donald trump does think he's king and would implement project 2025 and would use these powers to their maximum detrim

so it's not like judge mcafee in fulton county.ot going to have audio and video coming out of court. so assuming these hearings even take place, they're going to have to rely heavily on people like me and others, you, hugo, to report what happens. but to hugo's point, it's evidence. there's not going to be here say exceptions. how does jack smith anticipate these other challenges that would be executive privilege? speech and debate. these things that would end up being litigated and having to be appealed i would think before you actually move forward. >> i mean, a lot of these arguments have been raised by witnesses and trump himself in various context before the indictment. so i imagine he will be doubling down on holdings that other judges have made in these areas. following up on hugo's point and i was fascinated to read his reporting. i think trump's position is going to be a hard sell before judge chutkan. before i joined you, i pulled up the court's opinion and was looking at the section on tweets. the court may need to consi

in rwanda, president fulton county of the vermont and unpatriotic front is expected to win around $9700000.00 plus people are eligible to vote. and the presidential and parliamentary ballad in 2017 could allow me one more than 98 percent of the vote. us president joe biden has taken his election campaign to the bachelor. well, stays michigan for growing calls for him to step aside and let another democrat run in november, michigan's democratic governor and senator will both, those will be absent from a rally with bite and address criticisms office fitness for office on hand and reports funding event in the city of detroit, as president joe biden, returning to the campaign trail in the battleground state of michigan, and he wasted no time answering the question on nearly everyone's mind. speculation like, what's joe, why going to do is you're going to drop out here's why our region we're going to learn when he won in 2020 by doing of wins in pennsylvania and the midwestern states of michigan, wisconsin, illinois in minnesota, the so called democratic blue wall, but with a growing group of demo

weekend 2.5 years ago, we thought it was me the summer of a january 6 trial of a documents case, a fulton county, none of that appears to be happening now, he's got the supreme court immunity ruling. i mean, he could not have had a better saved for the terrible events of last weekend, last year of his life. and i think he's sinking in and he's really realizing this is literally better than i could have jumped up. how much people are rallying around, you know, we've seen them a lot just heard it. maybe he's been in a good mood. i also watched him during jd vance's speech last night, rohit and scowled practically the entire time he went, fans gave maybe one of the most boring convention speeches i've seen, and i've seen a lot of convinces me. it was long and it was boring but he can call them, jd boring, if i was able to get all be i'll be peter navarro exactly. his people come out but this does strike me that trump is going to do something that is not unifying, which is that they are really trying to go after a very narrow slice of the american public. this is, this is vertical marketing, not hol

what happened in the fulton county case, the fani willis conduct her handling of that. now, that's tied up in court. that is not going to go before the jury before november. now, what happened to the classified documents case? oh many levels things are bouncing. trump's way at a key moment, the question is, can you capitalize on it? au were only thing chain for the next hundred days, kaitlan, you have done let's get back to the actual case that was dismissed by judge cannon this morning. you've done extensive reporting, including talk to somebody who at trump employee who was very much a part of the case that the special counsel is building against him. yeah. i mean, kaitlan collins, paula reid, and i have broken so much reporting on this story and i think what's important to remember is that what judge cannon has done here has nothing to do with the merits of this case. it has absolutely nothing to do with that and that's why the people who are most shocked of all we'll are trump's attorneys on this right now, no one was expecting this decision. this was seen as a far-

and the reason fulton county d. a, fani willis wants to make an example out of him. >> he recalls with prosecutors have used testimony from co-defendants already tried for their crimes, as well as rap lyrics from young thugs own songs as purported evidence. >> the violin and crimes were committed at the rapper's behest. he denied the charges is our allegation that they operated as a criminal street gang and commence to do havoc in our community. >> willis and her team are juggling a lot including prosecuting donald trump in a separate racketeering case in the same courthouse just five floors above. why do you think the de is trying to use jeffrey williams as an example, if he didn't have a name, who wouldn't be having this conversation speaking to us from his podcast studio williams senior said his son is no gangster or crime boss, shock collar involved in a street war as alleged by investigators. he insist his sons only wrongdoing was hanging with the wrong crowd. is there any merit to this indictment? was there ev

my family was persecuted by rogue prosecutors in fulton county. i know, fulton county.ded by a dishonest business partner. let's not forget, the government gave him full immunity. we suffered warrantless raids and harassment. one of the officials even have my father's face on a dartboard in his office. my parents were sentenced to a combined 19 years. [crowd booing] i know. let me tell you, i got custody of my brother and sister. 10 and 16 at the time. you don't know heartache until you look children in the eyes and say, i don't know when mom and dad are coming home. i will never forget what the prosecutor said and the most heavily democratic county in the state. before an obama judge. he called us the trump of the south. [crowd booing] plenty of fun. he meant it as an insult. let me tell you, i wear it as a badge of honor. [crowd cheering] we live in a nation founded on freedom, liberty, and justice for all. justice is supposed to be blind. but today, we have a two faith justice system. just look at what they are doing to president trump. all while hunter biden is roam

what's happening right now if you look at the county in nevada and fulton county in georgia and look all these places this is starting to happen republicans are saying now election officials at the lowest level, just at regular counties in any state in the country, conditionu already exist, we're telling you that we'll allow you and justify and serve as a pretext to you saying no to certification. >> correct. >> so you're already seeing republican officials realizing that to certify an election, even when it's a not controversial election, even when republicans win big, even when they themselves are the official they are not certified because certifyingno an electio suggests any election is legitimate. and the point e of republican politics right now is not to contest an election, it's to contest the idea that elections are -- >> what they decide. >> which you need to do if your policy positions are very unpopular. >> and they don't want to have to pass their ideas through elections. they simply want their ideas. i'll tell you one quick thing related todayu the other news we're talki

what is happening right now if you look at the county in nevada or fulton county in georgia are all theseening, the republicans are now saying and election officials at the lowest level with regular counties in any state in the country, conditions already exist and we are telling you that will allow you and justify and serve as a pretext for you saying no to certification. so you do already see on republican officials realizing that to certify and election, even when adit isn't a controversial election or when republicans win big or they themselves are the officials of the election, they are certifying it because of doing that suggests any election is legitimate and the point of republican politics isn't to contest an election but contest the idea that elections are howr we decide in america. you need to do that if your t policy positions are unpopular. >> they don't want to pass their ideas through elections. one thing related to the other news we have been talking about is the rules committee of the democratic party sent out this note to its membership today talking about why they are d

facing a lot more state and federal charges including election interference charges right here in fulton countynvicted felon, some people saying it doesn't impact them voting for trump. the people were also 50-50 on other voter issues like which candidate better handles things like the economy and immigration. back to you. shannon: all right. madison scarpino in atlanta, thank you very much for reporting from there. okay, for more on this as we await former president trump to speak there the in pennsylvania, let's bring back in david avella, chairman of gopac. all right, david, good to have you back with us. we were just in georgia. obvious obviously, the trump campaign feels very optimistic about that, but "the atlantic" says the trump campaign cochair told me there are probably four true battlegrounds, arizona, michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. he said the campaign feels confident based on public and private polling as well as their own internal modeling that georgia, nevada and north carolina are moving out of reach for biden. now, if this is true, if their polling's accurate, there's al

my family goes back three generations with the fulton county democratic party.e are proud, independent. we are losing this race. i don't know what to do but everybody is upset. i'm sorry. president biden has given his all and they will just dump him. jd will wipe out the midwest. i have looked at the polls from last night. i have internal knowledge. they said trump is up by five to 10 points. i know it is early but we need to turn this thing around. fellow democrats, please give president biden. he needs to carry on. he needs to give the torch to kamala and we need to get the minorities and the enthusiasm. trump has the enthusiasm. he's a marketing genius. i do not like the man. host: do you think that president biden should step aside as a democrat? caller: look, the man is having some kind of medical problem that we have been ignoring for the last probably six to eight months. we don't talk about it in democratic circles because we are kinda pigeonholed. we are kind of pigeonholed. we wait until the last second to turn against the guy. what are we going to do

actually do this and at their people who specialize in turning out particularly votes in places like fulton county, places like detroit. places like milwaukee the democrats will have to win and win big and get big turnout in in order to win the election. and what i am hearing and the anger i am hearing that's coming from them, is that to the point that you are making given the stakes and the stakes being democracy itself, the stakes being project 2025, the stakes being a trump presidency, which i think everyone agrees that african- americans would be first in line to suffer, right? so they understand the stakes. there is a sense among the people that i have spoken to including some senior members of the caucus. that given that there is a sense there is gamesmanship going on inside of this effort to remove president biden from the ticket and that that gamesmanship is heavily geared toward also pushing aside kamala harris, vice president harris and is a sense there's a lot of pressure coming from -- some people call in california at this point. whether it's donors or it is members, whether it is who

he was arrested here and booked in his mug shot came about at the atlanta -- in atlanta at the fulton countydoesn't like cities in general because cities actually work on the ground in reality. the things that mayors come up and do directly affects people. donald trump has never lived in a world of reality, which is why when you look at things like project 2025, you have to be scared of what you see in there. he's an extremist. and he wants to be a dictator. and it is hard to be a dictator when you got to face people face to face like a city does, a mayor does. so it will be very difficult to go from the biden administration that gives us direct access, i have, you know, somewhere around 8 to 10 people i can call daily at the white house or in that administration to what i heard in the trump administration of the past, you don't get access to these folks. and they don't really want to talk to democratic cities or mayors in general. so, being cut off from communication with the white house and federal funding is a fear of mine and a fear of many mayors. >> mr. mayor, in the meeting yesterday,

caller: yes, i am in eastpoint, georgia, fulton county, and i want to apologize -- i am so sorry, i wanto apologize for my race. that woman in georgia, i want to apologize for her. i feel so bad. and the man that just called from new york, i feel so bad for their hate. and i feel so bad for you having to cut off a gentleman having to tell you this. please do not cut me off, i am a black woman, a democrat really, but i am calling on the independent line. you can cut me off if you want, but i am independent because i can see the hate. i can see the dei that dropped the ball, and i recommend everybody -- being a black woman, that everybody listen to candace owens' podcast. she had a podcast yesterday that explains it all. and i pray for our country, and i pray for you, too, because you have people that deserve to vent on c-span. c-span used to be so good. oh, i'm so brokenhearted. i'll vote for trump this time. and i did not vote for trump, but i am voting for trump. host: ok. david, madison heights, michigan , democrat. caller: thank you very much for taking my call. i think the call that