i go to fort fundson. i take my kids down to the beach, go down the stairs often and dogs are around and we enjoy their presence. a lot of people maybe don't feel the same way but we've enjoyed the presence of dogs at there. white house what's really been -- what's really been hard and difficult about this discussion, we have environmentalists and dog owners and dog owners which include environmentalists kind of pitted against each other and it's really been hard to have a real good dialogue at times about it because the tensions are really high and i really look at it in the broader context. we have the context of the federal government about with two weeks ago cut $40 billion from the national budget and we know that the national park service across the country has been cut dramatically as well. so we don't have the ability, the national park service and their arm at ggnra, don't have the ability to do the enforcement work that they needed to to be able to protect the natural habitats and what comes out