be commissioner president lazarus and joined by commissioner vice president honda and commissioner fung and commissioner swig and commissioner wilson to my left is deputy city attorney responsibility bryan with legal advice and the legal vaunted mr. pacheco and i'm cynthia goldstein the board's executive director we're joined by city departments to my right is carl a for the department of public works and the department of public works bureau of street use and mapping i expect we'll be joined by scott sanchez for the planning department and planning commission and joe duffy that represents the department of building inspection mr. pacheco please go over the boards meeting guidelines and the >> phones and other electronic devices are prohibited. out in the hallway. people affiliated with these parties must conclude their comments within 7 minutes, participants not affiliated have up to 3 minutes - no rebuttal. to assist the board in the accurate preparation of the business card to the clerk. speaker cards and pens are available on the left side of the podium. the board welcomes your comm

. >> how would you can you achieve that according to commissioner fung's direction. >> i think either way and certainly in the permit if it were did understand we may say some of the changes are okay some not beyond that if they come back in four weeks with a full set of plans the garage door 9 feet is okay. the board can say no. >> you have more control by keeping that jurisdiction and you can be more restrictive so, i mean. >> how much time will you need. >> we need enough time to review the materials and probably confirm passive built and that's not what is actually built being accurate on the plans but ask i've spoken with i'd like to take the opportunity in a from our staff i'll ask her to work on this with the preservation staff. >> two months. >> i don't know september date early september would be something that is good. >> there's another reason i want to keep this in jurisdiction i think any instance is it goes the other way is a matter of progress goes up substantially. >> i'm not disagreeably with you commissioner looking to get informed as to progress in sequence with com

a hearing which was decided on june 24th, 2015, at this time the board voted with the commissioner fungssioner vice president honda and commissioner swig absent on the basis of the subject permit was xhoipt rescinded the motion failed after failed to modify the rest indication by default commissioner swig you indicated you watched the materials of the procedures; is that right. >> you can participate we'll start with the attorney for the query you have 3 minutes. >> good evening, commissioners heeding my opponent and i can agree ton page 3 of their brief where they say that at purpose of a motion for reconsideration is to correct manifest reversible error in the law or facts here sfmta contributed by not printed in the record full and accurate information sfmta suggested for instance that mr. speakers shall address their comments to the commission as a whole and neither the police commission nor the la had gotten something for nothing by transferring the original manchester he worked for 20 years in the taxi destroy to hold that medallion whether the gentleman would have taken time off

vote is 2 to 3 the motion fails and that is still before the board on the merits. >> commissioner fung. >> i'm going to move to deny the appeal on the plumbing electrical permitting. >> basis of - >> that their cod compliant. >> both are code compliant okay. >> there's another motion on the under oath floor from commissioner fung now to uphold both permits electrical and plumbing on the basis they're both code compliant on that motion commissioner president lazarus commissioner vice president honda. >> no commissioner wilson no commissioner swig thank you vote is 3 to two those permits are upheld on that basis thank you. >> commissioner president lazarus no other business before the boards tonight. >> we'reñ!?tl

. >> commissioner fung through there are two appeals in fact only one permit so our last part to revoke on the boos of sound it is one permit for the staff and your correct i'll stay with that. >> it is 20 to revoke this on the basis of excessive sound. >> okay or revoke a permit. >> an this motion commissioner president lazarus no commissioner vice president honda snow commissioner wilson is absent and commissioner swig no thank you the vote is 20th century 1 to 3 the motion fails and absent another motion this permit is uphold as is. >> so my motion would be to - again, i'm getting - i need our help cynthia goldstein's to uphold dpws notation of the 20 seats only in front of the areas why they've designated 70 feet off of divisadero and to their condition that is until 9:30 at night and on the other added condition the garage doors come down at 9:30 p.m. and no later and that in consideration of the neighborhood disturbance of the ongoing disturbance of noise which. nationals from the bar. >> do you want to have the permit extend for every or for 6 months. >> please. so you're asking

a hearing which was decided on june 24th, 2015, at this time the board voted with the commissioner fung and commissioner vice president honda and commissioner swig absent on the basis of the subject permit was xhoipt rescinded the motion failed after failed to modify the rest indication by default commissioner swig you indicated you watched the materials of the procedures; is that right. >> you can participate we'll start with the attorney for the query you have 3 minutes. >> good evening, commissioners heeding my opponent and i can agree ton page 3 of their brief where they say that at purpose of a motion for reconsideration is to correct manifest reversible error in the law or facts here sfmta contributed by not printed in the record full and accurate information sfmta suggested for instance that mr. speakers shall address their comments to the commission as a whole and neither the police commission nor the la had gotten something for nothing by transferring the original manchester he worked for 20 years in the taxi destroy to hold that medallion whether the gentleman would have taken

. >> i agree with commissioner fung please. the links are important. >> although i participated last year from at&t i can get those as well thank you. >> anything else commissioners on item 2 any public comment on item number 2 seeing none we've move to item 3 k34irgsz that's our consideration of the minutes of july 21st. >> any additions, deletions, or changes if not may have a motion to approve the minutes. >> we'll approve the minute any public comment? okay. seeing none mr. pacheco call the roll please there's a 340gs from commissioner swig to adopt the july 1st, 2015, minutes commissioner fung commissioner president lazarus commissioner vice president honda commissioner wilson is absent the vote is 4 to zero those minutes are adopted >> thank you item number 4 is withdrawn item 5 ab those are appeal numbers the first filed by the restaurant and the groves rights resources against the public works on vera did care street appealing the conditions imposed on may 2015 and the other protesting the issuance of the same permit to

. >> that was the question that commissioner fung asked concrete had directly to the joining side of the property that's the question. >> i don't know if it actually touches it we're not aware of that we have pictures but there are slopes so any water runs off to the back and goes to the drainage at the back of the clients property. >> but the issue of the concrete is not part of nov not part of this appeal so why are we discussing this because this is not part of the appeal. >> it is partly of nov but no permit is riverside the nov only concerns our permit only concerns the issue of the bathroom roof. >> all right. as counselor mentions earlier it may come up later >> i want to make sure that we're addressing the issues that are in the permit. >> why not hear from the department that will help. >> commissioners it is in the scope of the work of the permit. >> okay. thank you. >> introouf. >> good evening joseph dbi that building permit is a notice of violation focus to rove the parapet on the level of the became on the second floor to accommodate the neighbors in the third-story nei

be commissioner president lazarus and joined by commissioner vice president honda and commissioner fung and commissioner swig and commissioner wilson to my left is deputy city attorney responsibility bryan with legal advice and the legal vaunted mr. pacheco and i'm cynthia goldstein the board's executive director we're joined by city departments

. >> there's a motion on the floor to uphold it is code compliant commissioner fung and commissioner president lazarus commissioner president lazarus no commissioner wilson. >> the voted is 4 to one that permit is on that basis thank you. >> commissioner president lazarus there was some discussion about the possibility of spec a and b out of orders an finish use of resources for the city representatives to go home and stop being on the city's clock and to the parties that are here (laughter) so if you'd like i can read those slowly with the expectation that the and senior inspector will be here they'll be here in a moment. >> that's fine we'll skip to items 11 ab and item a b 1572 both filed by folks against the department of building inspection on u correct street to charley the plumbing permit to remove a stove and the second protesting the issuance on april 27th to charles of app an electrical permit for correction and project as per violation and we will take both of those items together starting with the appellants i will have 14 minutes combined if you need it to present your c

on the poles as the previous speaker said are already ugly there are alternatives as commissioner fung mentioned the ideas of having them on roofs i'm happy to have one on my roof a couple of allocate issues it is my understanding that in terms of of safety 9-1-1 calls are routed through whatever the very nearest box or facility is and the only other thing i'd like to say is that i am a subscribeer of verizon in the beginning of this process they sent out a text to all of their users asking for support for this process unfortunately, i couldn't find a way to say i did not support it i think that was very much in their favor and not in the people's thank you. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> good evening honorable board i moved to the neighborhood over thirty years ago and since then unfortunately i've had very expensive back surgery and have problems getting around i feel that it is very important to be able to call somebody not even 9-1-1 but someone from family we all rely moroni our cell phones as opposed to landlines i agree when they get better equipment and gloun and smaller

. >> there's a motion on the floor into commissioner fung to uphold this this is code compliant commissioner president lazarus commissioner vice president honda commissioner wilson commissioner swig that he he the vote is 5 to zero the permit is upheld on this basis. >> we'll move on to item 9 appeal joan wood versus the public works the property on chester nut street for the 2015 of a wireless box for the construction of a personal wireless facility ms. wood. >> amp before your eyes joan wood i'm the only person braif enough to protest on health grounds i want you to feel when you decide against me i have a peripheral notice of notification but i'll attack the health issue everybody that has a sixth grade education sees emissions coming out of cell phones and the last study the man carried their cell phones in the hip-pocket it is safer if you put them in the breast pocket but as human beings the mortality is effected it is very difficult to do good health studies good control studies where what are you going to do not shield the people to see if their going to die it shields the - the 1996

. >> the point has made a motion to uphold this it is code compliant commissioner fung commissioner vice president honda commissioner wilson and commissioner swig thank you. the vote is 5 to zero the permit is upheld we'll return to items 11 ab they've been called this is for eureka street and we'll start with the appellant mr. sanchez are you working on getting mr. duffy back into the room. >> yeah. >> he wouldn't mind thank you. >> okay. you can begin. >> good evening board members my name is gordon this is ms. angela cross we're the residents on the street before you before we were discussing the permits that is a permit that goes along with the alteration permit we discussed in our last appeal we want you to not uphold this it didn't if you can have the orderly the 89 permits are required application for a permit the permit appellants shall file the permit application shows a proposed electrical installation and correct address this simply refers to the alteration permit and says work requires as of permit and then mentioned the alteration permit not- the second reason in our home we

. >> just to follow up on commissioner fung's the rooftop is not applicable. >> not for this network. >> okay. that's fine thank you. >> commissioner swig no any on the questions. >> is this - >> what's going through my mind is the this the late intrusive equipment to place. >> for this network again, yes are there smaller facilities yes, they serve different needs and styles of network we say to work with what we have are brown light poles another application for light standards they're available in the underground it's before referenced and if underground were to our wore to remove those facilities and the light poles will go up in this area and be potential used. >> my follow-up question that was when i bought it was obsolete the momentum i walked out of the store w wrufd verizon the technology is obsolete after it is installed what is to make sure that the thinking truthful use of equipment that will be cycled to get to the next technology that might be less i think truthful is there a responsibility associated with your permit that when new technology is available that will be le

. >> would it be - i'm dovetailing on commissioner fung's comment that it is no different than the last case in the last case you had a birds nest of a pole. >> uh-huh. >> it is arguable that a birds nest of wires was obstructing verifies like crazy and the addition of to we'll wasn't going to amount to a hill of beans it is already a mess in this one the difference no birds nest of garbage out there in the first place and this is an element which is creating blockage of a view so it is slightly different than the birds nest that was in the previous case i wanted to point that out. >> absolutely although like the case before there is another cross that brukdz looking at just the technical matt haney of the word obstruct. >> obstruct. >> commissioners the matter is submitted. >> before we - i want to respond to one of the points that was race by one of the - in the. the case we undertook on 27th avenue was one of many and it was the only one that we felt there was a basis to be able to create a further dialog with what those types of installations were adding to the neighborhood so it wa

. >> on that motion commissioner fung commissioner president lazarus commissioner wilson is absent commissioner swig thank you the vote is 4 to zero it permit is upheld on that basis. >> thank you. we'll now call item 8 howard versus the department of building inspection with the planning department approval property on fulsome street protesting the issuance on may of an alteration permit to extend the rear kitchen and rear deck and raising raise the building to accommodate parking and the side yard and new master bedroom bathroom and closet we'll start with the appellant you have 7 minutes. >> okay hello i've lived on fulsome for 3 years thanks for hearing this appeal i know that is late i want to say i'm in supportive redevelopment on fulsome with one expectation the to galileo goal will block the light and our daughters window the rear slaeltd deck is a problem someone it is an on it looks straight into our premise before me it is a previous concern we can't ignore you upcoming the following concern is the potential for noise from someone that is actually speaking on the deck or upcoming the