uses because it is the excuse to take away our freedoms and have bankruptcy our country that was dick of harvard or president of the future of freedom foundation now is the one hundred fiftieth anniversary today of the state of tennessee joining the confederacy during the american civil war who cares well it's one of one of many actually being celebrated this year and while some revere the date as a time to honor those in the south who fought for states' rights others recoil in horror at what they consider tantamount to celebrating what they feel is the real reason for the war slavery under fifty years later the reality is the country is still split over what caused the war and still divided today by many of its lasting effects here some of them. it's a war that lives on in the united states. soldiers can be found camped out near the battlefields where forefathers once fought reenacting the civil war one hundred fifty years later and off these fields its legacy still runs through the country the ohio river was once considered an extension of the mason dixon line in the united states dividing north and south a division that still remains today.

now for more earlier i spoke with jacob arguer he is president of the future of freedom foundation i asked him whether or not he believes that senator rand paul really stands a chance of shaping things that politically in washington i think out against established bipartisan foreign policy consensus here with his assessment rand is calling for a more constrained to restrain foreign policy in which the u.s. government does not intervene in baden occupies so many countries the problem as i see with those it still leaves in the hands of the government the power to engage in these interventions and so while you may call for more restraint policy all that subjective the government officials are going to be the ones in charge we libertarians say the government shouldn't even be engaged in intervening anywhere should be a department of true defense my question to you because as you said you're a libertarian i know that you are from whatever i do do you support rand paul in his ideas why are republicans and democrats so quick to kind of cast off the libertarians as being out of touch when it

and joining us for more here in the studio is jake of hornberger he is president of the future freedom foundation thank you for being here and so we just saw a report about rand paul and some of the things that he is calling for foreign policy wise which in his own words he said has made him unpopular what do you say in his words he said that i can't find it exactly but he basically says that he's an outcast as a result of what he is calling for my question to you is when someone is speaking out against kind of this bipartisan consensus on foreign policy that is continued from congress and from the administration's push to obama does he stand a chance to shake up. well i think so i mean ideas have consequences rand is calling for a more constrained restrained foreign policy in which the us government does not intervene in baden occupy so many countries the problem is i see with those it still leaves in the hands of the government the power to engage in these interventions and so while you may call for more restraint policy all that subjective the government officials are going to be the ones in c

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