. >> net flex is getting offended fwha by the way. sorry netflix, he said that, not me.o ahead. >> what most people say is don't worry about me, i'll use the money well, but other people will probably waste it. so what i tried to do in the book is look at the actual evidence we've got. what has happened when we exempt with it and actually there were huge experiments in the '60s, '70s in canada in the u.s. were that people don't stop working, healthcare costs go down, crime goes down, kids perform better in school, it works. if you think this a left wing idea, actually richard nixon almost implement today back in the '70s and back then everyone was in favor of it. >> the city ha you have convinced to try this out, what evidence is coming in from them? >> well, we don't know yet. so we live right now in sort of a huge new surge of interest in basic income. fin sland already doing a big experiment. canada just announced another big experiment. there are a lot of people in silicon valley interested in it right now. and that's what's interesting about the idea, it moves beyon