hawaii's tulsy gabbert. and our panel on the irs, rand paul and hillary clinton. i'm candy crowley, and this is "state of the union." joining me now senator susan collins of maine. thank you, senator collins, for being here. here's what we know so far about the irs. we will have an inspector generals report some time next week. we'll told in that report will show an irs official has said in fact, yes, there was extra scrutiny or singling out of groups with the words tea party or patriot in it as far back as 2011 we are told. senior officials knew this at the irs and didn't tell congress. we are also told by the director of these tax exempt organizations inside the irs that this was done as a shortcut and not out of "political bias." is this passing the smell test for you? >> not at all. this is truly outrageous. and it contributes to the profound distrust that the american people have in government. it is absolutely chilling that the irs was singling out conservative groups for extra review. and i think that it's very disappointing that the president hasn't person

i want to play you something tulsi gabbert said to me last week. >> there's no excuses. it's not enough to say this is something we'll stand for, we'll hold these people accountable unless you're providing a system and process to actually do that. >> both, tammy duckworth also on the show and tulsi gabbard said we need to take this entire process out of the chain of command. something at the moment your defense secretary is against. where does the president stand on the idea of having military prosecutors be the place that women or men go when there's a -- when they have a sexual assault charge? >> well, there's no question that this is absolutely inexcusable conduct. the president spoken and convened the secretary of defense in the white house on thursday to express this has to be resolved. >> they've been told that for years. >> and the lack of response and action here is completely unacceptable. secretary of defense knows that. joint chiefs know that. the president's communicated. so what we have to do is find a way to address this in a better fashion that's been done