gabe kline was the commissioner of traffic enforcement. red light cameras also save people's lives. >> the only live national news show at 11:00 eastern. >> we start with breaking news. >> let's take a closer look. >> we're talking tonight about a controversial red light program in chicago which last netted the city $500 million. citiics say chicago is addicted to revenue from the red light cameras. i spoke with angie schmidt, an editor at street blog u.s.a. as you just heard from gabe kline, angie told me that while they may lead to more rear end accidents, they reduce t bone accidents. >> sears loss of injuries, those are red light run being collisions, t bone collisions, not rear end fender benders. the vast majority of the scholarly research shows these are effective. >> remember chicago is just coming off of this parking meter scandal if you will, where it seems the city is so desperate for revenue they'll outis source ideas to people. moody's called the decision credit-negative for local treasuries. so part of the issue here, the hea

gabe kline is chicago's department of transportation commissioner from 2011 to 2013. he wrote a new book called startup city, describing how private-public partnerships can be used to get things done. thank you for joining us. the city of chicago states its entire red light camera program is based on the systematic bribing of john bills your assistant comer commissioner th. begs the question, why didn't you put an end to the red light program when you were a boss? >> i'm here to talk about the cameras in general, rather than chicago in specific. mr. bills retired the week i got there so my interaction he with him were very limited. i spent most of my time working on a speed camera program. the red light program was in place for about ten years before i got there. it was very successful in reducing crashes. and i understand that there's controversy. obviously there's bad actors in the private sector and public sector. that's very unfortunately. it seems to -- unfortunate. it seems to happen more in chicago. but the bottom line is the cameras do work. they reduce fatali