and, and gabriel gunn, is a acumen immigrant and the executive director for the ready for ron political action committee. thank you both for joining me on this. i'm going to start with you professor pine on this. what are you? i know you were with latin america, but are you concerned about the large amount of non hispanic citizens who are crossing the southern border? and um, am i concerned about it? i, you know, i'm, i'm concerned for their safety and concern that their human rights are respected. i'm concerned about the, the stabilisation that people have experienced in places all around the world. and much of which again, has to do with us for a policy. not all of that. of course, i mean, you can look at entities that are us allies like nato, that are creating tremendous how they're going. it's spelling people from their homes unconcerned, but people are not able to exercise their human rights to stay in their communities of origin to stay with their families. and that's something that people are being denied. so yes it's, it's a concern for me. um, and i think we need to make sure t

and gabriel gunn is a acumen immigrant and executive director for the ready for ron political action committee. thank you both for joining me on this. i'm going to start with you professor pine on this. what are you? i know you were with latin america, but are you concerned about the large amount of non hispanic citizens who are crossing the southern border? and um, am i concerned about it? i, you know, i'm, i'm concerned for their safety and concern that their human rights are respected. i'm concerned about the, the stabilisation that people have experienced in places all around the world. and much of which again, has to do with us for a policy. not all of that. of course, i mean, you can look at entities that are us allies like nato, that are creating tremendous how they're going. it's spelling people from their homes unconcerned, but people are not able to exercise their human rights to stay in their communities of origin to stay with their families. and that's something that people are being denied. so yes is, it's a concern for me. um, and i think we need to make sure that, that