there's gabriel pogrom — whitehall reporter, correspondent for the sunday times.that jane garvey and fi glover were leaving the bbc for times radio. now, for almost all of you listening, you don't need me to tell you who fi and jane are — in different ways, they've been giants of 5 live and then radio 4. no more, though — they're shifting across to times radio and so theyjoin quite a list — jon sopel, emily maitlis, andrew marr, lewis goodall, vanessa feltz, simon mayo, mark kermode — and if we go back a little further, eddie mair, chris evans, john pienaar and others — all of whom have departed the bbc�*s tv and radio output. so let's understand how these deals happen, and the calculations that are involved. we're joined by sue ayton, who's fi and jane's agent — also co—founder of knight ayton management, which represents a whole raft of the biggest names in broadcasting. and we're joined by megan carver — founder and managing director of carver pr, which does publicity for some of the biggest names in broadcasting. megan and sue, thanks for being with us on the