process come a week after most because on the virus restrictions in england was listed. professor gabriel scully is president of the epidemiology and public health section of the royal society of medicine in london explains what's behind much of the anti vaccine and anti lockdown movements. i think these rallies are relatively small and all the way through the pandemic. we've seen small groups of people who have taken to the straits to express their opposition to various things that comes from different opposition. opposition to the faxing opposition to government interference. some believe that the virus doesn't exist. that covert 19 doesn't exist. there's some think it's a conspiracy from all sorts of people, including bill gates, international conspiracy, putting microchips in their arms. it's such a mixed package of, of opposition and, but, but relatively small. it isn't anything new. there always has been opposition to vaccine in history. i think we've got get faxing levels, vaccination levels up. there are some people who are hesitant, and sometimes they've got to reasons because they are

if people are careful. professor gabrielle scully, of the rules. society of medicine says reopening could lead to more mutations of the virus. it's not a very good prospect. i think what is most concerning. a lot of scientists and public health people is the fact that the government actually wants this to happen in many ways. they want to see a lot of cases know during the summer they want those hospital admissions and those deaths to take place now rather than in the autumn in the winter because they think the ultimate winter are going to be bad enough. and getting some of the infection out of the way now is a good thing. but most public health people say that's absolutely crazy, that we shouldn't be encouraging the virus to spread. we shouldn't be letting that spread. and we certainly shouldn't be welcoming more cases, more hospitalization and more death are going to get more mutation taking place. but that has to happen. and if you get that happening in a country like the okay for about half of the population is vaccinated, you're actually giving an evolutionary advantage to variance t