well, in a moment, we will be joined by julian's father john shipton and his brother gabriel shipton. are here for the opening of a new film about john shipton's struggle to free his son. is titledithaka." >> he was the daing of the left. all of a sudden, he's of puppet of russia. >> im julianssange's fatr. >> julian assange is arrested. >> one of e mustard ties and coroversial gures in custody -- most notorious and controversial figures is in custody. >> i urge the department of justice to drop the charges. >> maximum jail sentence of 175 years because he publish the truth. how does it feel to be the father of a controversial figure knn around t world? >> what are yotalking about on it on a regular basis? >> if julian is extradited to the united states to face these charges, he will be the first, but not the last. >> collapsed underhe strai cook i am done. -- >> i am done. >> what's at stake? if he goes down, so will journalism. amy: that was the trailer of the new film "ithaka." it was produced by julian assange's brother, the filmmaker gabriel shipton, who joins us in washington, d

. >> his father, gabriel shipton, is his brother. both of them join us now. thank you both for coming, sir. john , just you first. the obvious question, are you any closer to getting your son out of prison tonight? >> oh, no. no class. but we have a rising tide worldwide. support every parliamentary democracy in the western world . as you know, in a support group within and we characterized the previous election of the government in australia as an assange government because each of successful candidates and the independents ,the greens stood on a platform of bringing assange home to australia. so and he should be the malus that's been directed toward him tells you a lot about the people directing. gabriel , let me ask you, what are the impediments? who is standing in the way of this? if we could put a finer point on this, who's preventing your brother from getting out? >> well, the national security doj are the ones who are behind this prosecution of julian . i think if if they would relook at this case and realize that they're prosecuting someone for doing

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